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 Post subject: Re: Lowering head to initiate contact with the helmet
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:23 am 
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I heard a comparison to the NHL rule about hitting player's wrists. The problem they had was that they were getting a lot of broken wrists because of players striking other player's wrists as a part of a defensive move. The NHL made a rule to make it illegal. There was and uproar and the first 2 weeks of the season there was chaos. Since then they have had no broken wrists and everything seems to be moving forward.

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 Post subject: Re: Lowering head to initiate contact with the helmet
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:29 am 
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Before I comment, I just want to say I AM NOT going to read the whole thread to see if this has been mentioned, but...

What about a ball carrier running forward who puts his head down to make an extra yard?


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering head to initiate contact with the helmet
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:32 am 
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Nick79 wrote:
Before I comment, I just want to say I AM NOT going to read the whole thread to see if this has been mentioned, but...

What about a ball carrier running forward who puts his head down to make an extra yard?

Against the rules, and expected to be enforced... somehow.

Tim Benz's article today nails it:
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Tim Benz: NFL's new helmet rule about owner safety, not player safety


http://triblive.com/sports/columnists/timbenz/13476977-74/tim-benz-nfls-new-helmet-rule-about-owner-safety-not-player-safety

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 Post subject: Re: Lowering head to initiate contact with the helmet
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:04 am 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Nick79 wrote:
Before I comment, I just want to say I AM NOT going to read the whole thread to see if this has been mentioned, but...

What about a ball carrier running forward who puts his head down to make an extra yard?

Against the rules, and expected to be enforced... somehow.

Tim Benz's article today nails it:
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Tim Benz: NFL's new helmet rule about owner safety, not player safety


http://triblive.com/sports/columnists/timbenz/13476977-74/tim-benz-nfls-new-helmet-rule-about-owner-safety-not-player-safety


WOW! that happens constantly, that's ingrained in ball carriers from childhood, that will be practically impossible to unlearn.


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering head to initiate contact with the helmet
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:59 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Lowering head to initiate contact with the helmet
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Hmmm...shouldn’t that be,
“What you have learned, unlearn you must”?

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 Post subject: Re: Lowering head to initiate contact with the helmet
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:39 pm 
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These new rules just reinforces my idea of wanting to draft for offense over defense. The days of having great defenses are over. The NFL wants high scoring games, a lot of points, they want lead changes, they want games decided in the last two minutes.

That is why you keep adding pieces to your offense, the NFL is all about who scores last and how many points can you score to keep up with the best teams.

This new rule though doesn't it go against the laws of nature? How are you supposed to tackle somebody without the head being lowered in some way? Same with a RB running with the ball. One thing for sure though, you will see more defensive players ejected and thus advantage to the offense.

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 Post subject: Re: Lowering head to initiate contact with the helmet
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:51 pm 
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Scunge wrote:
These new rules just reinforces my idea of wanting to draft for offense over defense. The days of having great defenses are over. The NFL wants high scoring games, a lot of points, they want lead changes, they want games decided in the last two minutes.

That is why you keep adding pieces to your offense, the NFL is all about who scores last and how many points can you score to keep up with the best teams.

This new rule though doesn't it go against the laws of nature? How are you supposed to tackle somebody without the head being lowered in some way? Same with a RB running with the ball. One thing for sure though, you will see more defensive players ejected and thus advantage to the offense.



Keep in mind the rule is worded as (paraphrasing) “make it illegal to intentionally target another player’s helmet using your own helmet”.

So it’s essentially the NFL’s spin on college’s targeting rule.

Tackling a guy and having your helmet hit his chest still isn’t a penalty. Hell, tackling a guy having your helmet hit his helmet should theoretically be legal.

This is more for when a player lowers his helmet with the intent of targeting another player’s helmet.

Now that’s the theory.

The realistic side of this is that the NFL will likely tell the refs that this is a “point of emphasis” and it’ll get called in a bunch of situations where it shouldn’t, much like the defenseless receiver rules did when they were first put into place.

Even still, though, I don’t think 99% of tackles will be affected by this. I think it’ll be more of an extension of the NFL’s wish to be able to flag any hits to the head that look particularly violent.


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering head to initiate contact with the helmet
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Jobus Rum wrote:
Poltargyst wrote:
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Hmmm...shouldn’t that be,
“What you have learned, unlearn you must”?

Correct you may be.


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering head to initiate contact with the helmet
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:13 pm 
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Poltargyst wrote:
Jobus Rum wrote:
Poltargyst wrote:
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Hmmm...shouldn’t that be,
“What you have learned, unlearn you must”?

Correct you may be.

Yeah...letting my inner nerd hang out.

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