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 Post subject: Re: Timmons to be released
PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:50 pm 
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We're in a tough spot at ilb, no two ways about it. As has been mentioned, there's nobody out there to sign that you can say fixes the position next year. If there were, I'd sacrifice Bell and use that money to sign them. Best we can do is sign timmons and draft a guy high, hoping he can pick things up (Vander Esch) quickly like Watt.


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 Post subject: Re: Timmons to be released
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:47 pm 
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So we make Scrunge's switch to a 4-3?


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 Post subject: Re: Timmons to be released
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:37 pm 
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My wanting to switch to a 4-3 has much more to do with being open to drafting all types of players instead of just being focused on this narrow definition of 3-4 type of players.

For example, there are so many ILB and OLB types that we pass over each and every draft. Because they are not tall enough, because they do not weigh enough.

I mentioned Skai Moore in my first mock draft. He is 6'2" about 220 pounds and might run in the 4.55-4.60 area. We would typically just pass over this type of prospect. Not big enough to be an ILB, or an OLB, too weak, what good is he? How about that fact that he had 14 interceptions? That he has great instincts in pass coverage? That has equally great instincts in playing the run?

If our 3-4 defense is so great and so flexible how come we can't find a way to make use of a Skai Moore? To make use of these smaller ILBs/OLBs? 4-3 teams do it all the time. They are all capable of taking these smaller linebackers and making them a Will OLB and get great production out of them.

Dorian Daniels is another small linebacker, where would the Steelers play him in our 3-4 defense? Yes, yes, they would play him in the sub package defense, blah, blah, blah. 4-3 teams figure out ways to have him be a starter as a Will.

Carl Lawson last season. I think at the end of the day the Steelers did not draft him because he was not good enough to be a standup OLB who could set the edge against the run. Bengals did not care and play him as a DE and use him to rush the passer. Just another example of our great 3-4 defense excluding prospects because of this or that.

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 Post subject: Re: Timmons to be released
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:42 pm 
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And with a gaping hole at ILB, we need to be flexible.


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 Post subject: Re: Timmons to be released
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:58 pm 
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Time to look into FA early for that FA ILB


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 Post subject: Re: Timmons to be released
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:23 pm 
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Timmons is to be released next week but it's reported he slowed down at the end of last season. Maybe he will take backup money from the Steelers.


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 Post subject: Re: Timmons to be released
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:51 pm 
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It's official, LawDog released....

Dolphins released LB Lawrence Timmons.

With the cap-strapped Dolphins apparently "changing their culture," releasing Timmons and saving $5.4 million against the cap was a no-brainer. Timmons went AWOL at the beginning of last season and was completely ineffective upon his return. The ex-Steeler turns 32 this spring.


Related: Dolphins Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Mar 12 - 1:45 PM


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 Post subject: Re: Timmons to be released
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:56 pm 
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Timmons has lost his legs and is no longer an every play ILB. Steelers may not want him even for Vet minimum. Could possibly be a backup on a one year deal at Vet min. Needs to talk to Tomlin to sort things out.


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 Post subject: Re: Timmons to be released
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:22 pm 
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Steelergenie wrote:
Timmons has lost his legs and is no longer an every play ILB. Steelers may not want him even for Vet minimum. Could possibly be a backup on a one year deal at Vet min. Needs to talk to Tomlin to sort things out.

IDK, I could be wrong, but when I watched Timmons last year he just seemed to be going through the motions most of the time. Like he was disinterested and didn't want to get hurt. I did see on some plays where he went hard, but many he took off. I'm not sure it was as much age related as is was happiness being there or something mental. I guess we'll see if he gets a chance to come back. I'm okay with him coming back as a cheap, one year role player/stopgap of some sort. It could give us a chance to see if Shazier has any real shot of making any serious progress (not that I'm expecting it).


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 Post subject: Re: Timmons to be released
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:54 am 
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I think they bring Timmons back for back up money. Not starter money. JMO


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