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 Post subject: Re: Kiper Mock 2.0
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:27 pm 
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He impressed me in coverage. good awareness of zones, Many will probably consider him a ham -n-egger

I don't. I think he's going to test well and he can cover.

He scored over 70 TDs... in his senior year of H.S. = FOOTBALL PLAYER.

70 TDS in one season??? :shock: Holy hell!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Kiper Mock 2.0
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Jobus Rum wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
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He impressed me in coverage. good awareness of zones, Many will probably consider him a ham -n-egger

I don't. I think he's going to test well and he can cover.

He scored over 70 TDs... in his senior year of H.S. = FOOTBALL PLAYER.

70 TDS in one season??? :shock: Holy hell!!!


Wonder how high school stats can be used to gauge pro careers......

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 Post subject: Re: Kiper Mock 2.0
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:38 pm 
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I know it's from PFF, but....(I personally haven't seen him play a ton, but I liked what I saw when I did).

The first thing one notices about Vander Esch is his size — 6-foot-3, 240-pounds — and more specifically, his height combined with long arms gives him outstanding length for the position. Vander Esch can shrink second-level passing windows with his length and bat down passes to wide receivers he’s not even covering. He also uses his long arms to defeat blockers and make difficult tackles in space. Against the run, Vander Esch has the eyes to find the ball and has a knack for sliding past blockers to make a run stop. Vander Esch had 57 run stops and a run-stop percentage of 15.9, both marks ranked No. 1 among all FBS inside linebackers. He uses his long stride to quickly cover ground on outside runs and is also a productive pass-rusher when asked, generating four sacks, two QB hits, 12 hurries and one batted pass on his 98 pass-rushing snaps.

Vander Esch can use his athleticism to make a quick lateral move around a blocker or he can use his strength to bull-rush a blocker and he’s also very difficult for RBs to handle in pass protection.


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 Post subject: Re: Kiper Mock 2.0
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:21 pm 
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BarryFoster wrote:
Wonder how high school stats can be used to gauge pro careers......

Just saying that he's like the guy you'd draft first in a pickup game... threw for TDs, ran for TDs, had INTs for TDs, returned kicks for TDs... he was one of the great 8 man football players ever.

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 Post subject: Re: Kiper Mock 2.0
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:30 pm 
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BarryFoster wrote:

Wonder how high school stats can be used to gauge pro careers......


Same as college. Wrist circumference

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 Post subject: Re: Kiper Mock 2.0
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BarryFoster wrote:

Wonder how high school stats can be used to gauge pro careers......


I dunno, but I can tell you one thing. I was one HECK of a good football player in jr high school.


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 Post subject: Re: Kiper Mock 2.0
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I'll be very honest, I am not a big fan. I think he is being massively over-hyped. His tape isn't great and I think he appears stiff.

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smithessmokin wrote:
I'll be very honest, I am not a big fan. I think he is being massively over-hyped. His tape isn't great and I think he appears stiff.


So...perfect in Tomlin’s defense?

He intrigues me, but I don’t know about 1.28


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Lynch wrote:
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Wonder how high school stats can be used to gauge pro careers......


I dunno, but I can tell you one thing. I was one HECK of a good football player in jr high school.


That's what happens when you get held back 5 years in a row...


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 Post subject: Re: Kiper Mock 2.0
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BarryFoster wrote:

Wonder how high school stats can be used to gauge pro careers......


assuming they play in a decent conference -- future pro players usually dominate at the HS level


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