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 Post subject: Dump Mike Mitchell for Tre Boston
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:42 am 
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Boston is a free agent, and while the chargers want to keep him, the Steelers cluld easily dunp Motchells $5M base salary this year and use that cap space for year one of a backloaded contract with Boston. Even a $8m per ear deal cluld be structured to have a miniscule cap hit in year 1.

If they pull it off, and maybe scoop up Timmons after hes cut, how does that change the way you draft?

I think ILB and safety are still needs, but now you can still take best player available in round one without reaching. Maybe one of the few good edge players falls and we snag them. Or a replacement for Bryant. Or we can snag another offensive playmaker for the stable in the second.

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 Post subject: Re: Dump Mike Mitchell for Tre Boston
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:38 am 
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It won't happen because of the timing and salary cap.

Steelers have to clear enough cap space to make Bell an offer-- they have to have the available cap space when they offer the franchise tag.

Even if they let Bell walk, they're $3M over the cap, so they have to make cuts/restructures before doing anything. Then there's the whole waiting to hear from the league office if they get any relief from Shazier's contract cap hit. This will take time.

Tre Boston will probably be one of the first FAs to sign, and we'll probably sign one of the last.

My guess? They will clear cap space, sign Bell to too big a deal, sign a bottom tier FA at ILB and and call it a day until the draft. Kevin Pierre-Louis at 3 yrs, 9M would have been a good bet... right up until he was arrested last week for marijuana possession.

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 Post subject: Re: Dump Mike Mitchell for Tre Boston
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:40 pm 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
It won't happen because of the timing and salary cap.

Steelers have to clear enough cap space to make Bell an offer-- they have to have the available cap space when they offer the franchise tag.

Even if they let Bell walk, they're $3M over the cap, so they have to make cuts/restructures before doing anything. Then there's the whole waiting to hear from the league office if they get any relief from Shazier's contract cap hit. This will take time.

Tre Boston will probably be one of the first FAs to sign, and we'll probably sign one of the last.

My guess? They will clear cap space, sign Bell to too big a deal, sign a bottom tier FA at ILB and and call it a day until the draft. Kevin Pierre-Louis at 3 yrs, 9M would have been a good bet... right up until he was arrested last week for marijuana possession.

I didn’t realize it was so tight..... I also heard earlier this week that they will probably have to eat the $8.7M for Shazier and it WILL count against the cap. If all true - I can’t see Bell getting his deal.


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 Post subject: Re: Dump Mike Mitchell for Tre Boston
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:40 pm 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
It won't happen because of the timing and salary cap.

Steelers have to clear enough cap space to make Bell an offer-- they have to have the available cap space when they offer the franchise tag.

Even if they let Bell walk, they're $3M over the cap, so they have to make cuts/restructures before doing anything. Then there's the whole waiting to hear from the league office if they get any relief from Shazier's contract cap hit. This will take time.

Tre Boston will probably be one of the first FAs to sign, and we'll probably sign one of the last.

My guess? They will clear cap space, sign Bell to too big a deal, sign a bottom tier FA at ILB and and call it a day until the draft. Kevin Pierre-Louis at 3 yrs, 9M would have been a good bet... right up until he was arrested last week for marijuana possession.


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 Post subject: Re: Dump Mike Mitchell for Tre Boston
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:49 pm 
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The league HAS to give them an exemption for Shazier. Otherwise horrible PR all around.

Shazier, Mike Mitchell, Wilcox and DHB frees up just over $18M. That's how you get the money to tag Bell.

Gay and Alualu is nearly $5M more. Easily restructure Ben and/or AB if there's a FA worth going after.

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 Post subject: Re: Dump Mike Mitchell for Tre Boston
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Kodiak wrote:
The league HAS to give them an exemption for Shazier. Otherwise horrible PR all around.

Shazier, Mike Mitchell, Wilcox and DHB frees up just over $18M. That's how you get the money to tag Bell.

Gay and Alualu is nearly $5M more. Easily restructure Ben and/or AB if there's a FA worth going after.


Cut everybody! :lol:

Alualu was great for us this year, he's going nowhere. Would be shocked if DHB is gone as well, and ultimately don't think they cut Mitchell either. They'll draft a safety and groom 'em for '19.

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 Post subject: Re: Dump Mike Mitchell for Tre Boston
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:31 pm 
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Cut everybody! :lol:


Mitchell, Gay and DHB pretty much suck, and make a good chunk of change.

Agreed Alualu was solid. But you want to make the team better finding money to sign a FA, then start with $3M for a back-up 3-4 DL...especially when you're in nickel/dime 60%+ of the time.

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 Post subject: Re: Dump Mike Mitchell for Tre Boston
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:45 pm 
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Aluala was on the field for this D 44% of the time. Just 2% of the time less than our "starter" Javon Hargrave.

You can't pay quality players league minimum and expect to have a good team. Heywood, Tuitt, and Hargrave now all have lengthy injury histories.

Cutting Aluala just to try and save a million or two would be idiotic

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 Post subject: Re: Dump Mike Mitchell for Tre Boston
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Alualu is quality depth and an important piece of what should be a Dline rotation.

Mitchell & Gay could be replaced with traffic cones and we’d get the same results.

Those two must be replaced.


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 Post subject: Re: Dump Mike Mitchell for Tre Boston
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:20 pm 
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TB wrote:
Kodiak wrote:
The league HAS to give them an exemption for Shazier. Otherwise horrible PR all around.

Shazier, Mike Mitchell, Wilcox and DHB frees up just over $18M. That's how you get the money to tag Bell.

Gay and Alualu is nearly $5M more. Easily restructure Ben and/or AB if there's a FA worth going after.


Cut everybody! :lol:

Alualu was great for us this year, he's going nowhere. Would be shocked if DHB is gone as well, and ultimately don't think they cut Mitchell either. They'll draft a safety and groom 'em for '19.

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