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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:15 pm 
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It's been a while, but as memory serves the Gunner had a few pops one night and made the mistake of calling some son of a bitch a son of a bitch. The son of a bitch didn't like being called a son of a bitch. The son of a bitch had some pull with the Pirates and/or KDKA and demanded that the Gunner be fired, so the Gunner was fired. Ever since, the fans have gotten politically correct corporate boot lickers who are basically ticket sellers under the guise of calling a game. Not to be critical, just my opinion.


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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:46 pm 
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Hopalong wrote:
Gunner was truly a Prince, met him at Candlestick and Dodger Stadium over the years. Always dressed to the nines and affable as all get out!! A wondeful person.

Had a memorable 2 hr. lunch at the Hilton's Rifle and Plow , when it first opened. Cannot believe he wasn't allowed to finish his career, beyond sad!


Great story, Hoppy. I got to meet the Gunner as well, Gentleman all the way, old school style. One of the greatest moments of my life.

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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:56 pm 
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Prince will always be hated by a % of Burghers for his dealings with Westinghouse.

Westinghouse was where my bread was buttered so he was NOT very popular with my family

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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:58 pm 
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Wild. I've never met anyone in the Burgh, and I lived here back then, who didn't love the Gunner. Everyone I ever knew thought that was the most jagoff fucking assholish thing to can this great announcer.

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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:12 pm 
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Thankfully I am too young to have formed an opinion MJG...I don't know...I liked his calls that I've heard :D

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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:16 pm 
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You know, of course, I only hang out with homers and yinzers and folk who hate stats geeks. :lol:

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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:43 pm 
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MeanJoeGreene75 wrote:
You know, of course, I only hang out with homers and yinzers and folk who hate stats geeks. :lol:


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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:24 pm 
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:lol:

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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:34 pm 
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Found this article on the SABR website:

http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/0d0c3ddc

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By the mid 1970s, Westinghouse executives were bringing guests and clients into the booth during games. Sometimes they would try to talk to Prince or ask for autographs during the broadcasts. On more than one occasion, they committed the cardinal sin of cheering the opposing team. During a game in 1975, when the Westinghouse guests became too raucous, Prince blurted over the air, "Ladies and gentlemen, we've got some idiots in the box rooting for Chicago." On October 30, 1975, Westinghouse Broadcasting shocked Pirate fans by announcing that Prince would not return for a 29th year behind the microphone. He and popular sidekick King were fired. At the time, no major league broadcaster had ever spent more years with one team than Bob Prince.


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Prince admitted that Brown (echoing beliefs expressed two decades earlier by Branch Rickey) wanted Prince to ramble less and stick closer to the action on the field. But, "I never dreamed that meant, 'If you don't, you're out.'" He pleaded to remain with the Pirates. "It's the first time I've ever begged for anything. I asked for another chance. I even offered to write out a resignation for ill health of they would let me come back for '76." But regional director of Westinghouse Broadcasting, Ed Wallis, would hear nothing of it. Wallis, who became the public bogeyman in the firings, initially ducked requests for comment on the firings. But later he responded, "Club management and station management met with him (Prince) at the beginning of this year and summarized specifically all of our previous concerns. It became clear last season that the issues in dispute could not be reconciled; therefore, the contracts were not renewed." He told a Rotary Club luncheon that he was looking for a play-by-play man who could provide "accurate, consistent, uninterrupted accounts of the baseball game." Prince contended, "The only person who doesn't want me back is Ed Wallis. It's that simple." The level of acrimony on both sides suggests that somewhere along the line the disagreements between Prince and King and the Westinghouse executives had crossed the line from professional to personal. King claims that Wallis laughed when he reminded the executive that he needed the job to support his family. "It was almost like dealing with someone from 'The Godfather,'" according to King. Indeed, one person at Westinghouse claimed that Prince simply had gotten "too big for his britches."


Great quote by Bob Prince:
"Who do I broadcast for, the Pennsylvania Turnpike? If I did I'd tell you about the charm of the tollbooths. No, I broadcast for the Pittsburgh Pirates. I always call them 'Our Bucs.' They belong to every fan in Pittsburgh and I love them."

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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:42 pm 
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Re Vin Scully. No he's certainly no Gunner, but I love listening to him. I actually love the MLB Network for broadcasting Dodger games on Friday and Saturday nights just to listen to his play-by-play. It's amazing to me that the first game he broadcast was at Ebbets Field which has been gone for over 50 years now. In fact, it was seven years before the Dodgers would leave Brooklyn for L.A.

The guy who he replaced in Brooklyn, Red Barber, had it all over Vin like the Gunner. Red was to Brooklyn as the Gunner was to Pittsburgh, and like the Gunner had this own Barber-isms. I've ranted about it here before, but these cookie cutter broadcasters that we have now are the bland ones. Bob Prince, Red Barber, Mel Allen, Ernie Harwell, Jack (not Joe) Buck, Jack Brickhouse, Curt Gowdy - those were the greats.

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