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 Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:37 pm 
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PS, you see the same thing with skiing. In the 80s nobody wore helmets, except like pros skiing gates. Nowadays it's rare to see anyone with any ability not wearing a helmet.

Look at Natasha Richardson. I think she was on like a green bunny type slope. Fell backwards, brain hemorrhage, dies from it.

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 Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:45 pm 
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The most dangerous youth sport=cheerleading. Fact.


Actually according to most recent studies, basketball is the most injury causing sport.

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 Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:49 pm 
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So if you're asking if I would let my kid play football- yes I would. But I wouldn't let him use roids, overtrain, or allow him to be socially retarded in the process. For every bad case there are hundreds of kids who play football and enjoy it and suffer no lasting ill affects from it.


just like there are plenty of people who masturbate with plastic bags on their heads and don't die! ha

j/k, the key here to me is we're talking head injuries. TBIs are serious shit. Your brain does not heal. Most other sports don't have head injuries are a persistent feature. So the question is, would you knowingly allow your child, who does not have an adult brain and therefore not full rational faculties, to do stuff that would permanently injure him? It's pretty obvious to me what the answer is.

The way for boys to grow up to be men is for their fathers to be real men and raise them. There has never and will never be a substitute for that. And a lot of men today are the pussies who aren't doing that. Again, it's no feminization of society or nanny state. Fathers are failing their children. They're the problem.


I was under the impression that we were talking about pee wee football here. Not a lot of head trauma or extremity issues there. I think the "feminization" and fathers failing their children are chicken and egg concepts. One doesn't happen independent of the other IMO. I grew up in a single parent household and my mom did what she could like millions of moms do- but they can't give a boy skills if they don't know how- so they do what they know.


I gotcha. I wasn't commenting on single moms. I was talking about the men who complain about "the nanny state" without realizing the irony that if the nanny state exists it's because they're not doing their jobs!

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 Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:56 pm 
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Football is not a sport for pussies. With the pussification of America, it only stands to reason that the acceptance of football will also decreased due to the increased amount of pussies. No?


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 Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:01 pm 
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Football is not a sport for pussies. With the pussification of America, it only stands to reason that the acceptance of football will also decreased due to the increased amount of pussies. No?


It makes sense, RS.....Popularity of football, and the acceptance of the essence of the game stands in inverse proportion to the preponderance of pussies in the general American population.


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 Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:03 pm 
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I would.

How many millions of people played contact football at some level in this country? Out of that number, how many suffered life altering traumatic brain injuries? Sure, the most dramaticly injured pro athletes make the headlines. Those spectacular cases appear to be rare even for Pro athletes. Have the studies been able to segregate brain injury caused by collisions as opposed to brain injury caused by steroids / HGH/ whatever supplements?

I played high school football as a starting lineman and don't seem to have suffered any ill effects. Neither did my friends/teammates as far as I can tell. My brother-in-law played college ball (DIII) as a lineman and does not seem to have suffered any ill effects. High schools are aware of the risks posed by concussions now. They'll be more cautious in the future. Without more convincing data, I see no real reason to forbid my son from playing.

As many have noted, there's risk in everything. I wouldn't want my kid to ride a motorcycle. I wouldn't want my kid to do MMA or box. However, I'm not convinced that football is too risky. Frankly, I'd feel more comfortable with my son playing football than baseball. Anecdotally, it seems as though I hear/read of more kids killed in Little League or High School from a line drive to the chest or head than I do from some on-field football injuires.

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 Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:07 pm 
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My two favorite sports to watch are football and MMA. I would prefer my son not partake in either, but I'd support him if if he chose to play football. That would change pretty quick if he got a concussion. I know there is a 99.9% chance my kids will make their livings with their brains down the road and a one in a million chance they'll make a living in athletics. I'd prefer to keep them involved in activities where the chances of their brains getting scrambled are at a minimum.

If you are being honest, violence and collisions are what make football great to watch, but subjecting our kids to those things isn't great parenting.


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 Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:11 pm 
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swissvale72 wrote:
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Football is not a sport for pussies. With the pussification of America, it only stands to reason that the acceptance of football will also decreased due to the increased amount of pussies. No?


It makes sense, RS.....Popularity of football, and the acceptance of the essence of the game stands in inverse proportion to the preponderance of pussies in the general American population.



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swissvale72 wrote:
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Football is not a sport for pussies. With the pussification of America, it only stands to reason that the acceptance of football will also decreased due to the increased amount of pussies. No?


It makes sense, RS.....Popularity of football, and the acceptance of the essence of the game stands in inverse proportion to the preponderance of pussies in the general American population.


So evenutally, the more affluent and thus "pussies" of the USA will no long allow their children to play football. Football will only be relegated to the poor and underpriveledged who have grown up in with violence all around them. Then, the affluent pussies will be the only ones who can afford to pay the ticket price and go watch the poor kids beat the shit out of each other on the football field. They will cheer and cheer for harder hits at the football game, while little johnny is playing soccer the next day. Sound familiar? Maybe Adrian Peterson had the whole slave mentality thing correct.


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ReigningSteel wrote:
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Football is not a sport for pussies. With the pussification of America, it only stands to reason that the acceptance of football will also decreased due to the increased amount of pussies. No?


It makes sense, RS.....Popularity of football, and the acceptance of the essence of the game stands in inverse proportion to the preponderance of pussies in the general American population.


So evenutally, the more affluent and thus "pussies" of the USA will no long allow their children to play football. Football will only be relegated to the poor and underpriveledged who have grown up in with violence all around them. Then, the affluent pussies will be the only ones who can afford to pay the ticket price and go watch the poor kids beat the shit out of each other on the football field. They will cheer and cheer for harder hits at the football game, while little johnny is playing soccer the next day. Sound familiar? Maybe Adrian Peterson had the whole slave mentality thing correct.


Gladiator culture in the truest sense.

Growing up though, probably all of us knew kids whose parents wouldn't let them play football...and invariably, and often through no fault of their own, they were labelled pussies.

Funny, my high school coach, Bill Priatko, whose mom was a Russian immigrant at first wouldn't allow him to play football, wanting him to focus his time and attention on playing the violin. Then, when Bill broke his orbital bone playing for North Braddock Scott against Munhall, his mom flipped the fuck out.....out in the street, literally, wailing, how he could never play football again. His brother brought him to the drug store in Braddock, got him some leaches...honest to Christ....to get the swelling to go down. Then, and I"ve told this story before, his high school coach, Johnny Reed, a rival of Paul Brown (Canton McKinley vs. Massilon) had Bill go to Braddock Hospital to be x-rayed. When young Priatko told Reed the results of the x-rays and that the doctor told him he was done for the season, Reed said...."What's he know? You'll be alright," and had him back on the practice field that afternoon. True story


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