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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:45 am 
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The Pirates offered salary arbitration Wednesday to first baseman Derrek Lee, but did not offer it to outfielder Ryan Ludwick or catcher Chris Snyder.

If Lee declines arbitration and signs with another team, the Pirates will receive a draft pick between the first and second rounds of the draft.

They already received one selection when Ryan Doumit signed with the Minnesota Twins.

Lee was the obvious candidate for an arbitration offer. He hit .337 with seven home runs after joining the Pirates at the trade deadline. He missed time when he took a pitch off his left hand, but performed well when healthy. He made $7.25 million last season and, if he accepts arbitration, his salary likely will be slightly higher. The Pirates, who need a starting first baseman, would like Lee to return but will take the draft pick if he does not. They could use Garrett Jones at first, bring up Matt Hague , make a trade or pursue one in free agency.


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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:51 am 
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No, they made an effort to get draft pick compensation.

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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:28 am 
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Could be. I'd love to see us keep lee though.

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 Post Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:49 pm 
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shamtown wrote:
No, they made an effort to get draft pick compensation.


I think you are right Shammy - would be great if Lee signed it though.


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 Post Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:42 pm 
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Very, very unlikely.

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 Post Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:23 pm 
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I thought this was a good summary of the moves so far --

and it's true that the real impact bat must come from the 1st base position -- as the author points out, If the 1-2-3 guys stay healthy all year, and we add a big bat at 4 this off season, that leaves walker and alvarez at 5 and 6 -- pretty good batting order there if you ask me

http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011/11 ... layer.html


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 Post Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:48 am 
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that's a pretty good article, thanks.

1B does look to be where we would get the impact player, if we do at all. I think it's looking less and less likely Lee will re-sign. Sham is doubtful and all reports seem to indicate that Lee simply isn't too hot on staying with the team. Pena doesn't look too bad, but being left-handed kind of leaves Jones odd man out. At 2.4 mill, I'd prefer to keep Jones for depth.

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 Post Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:41 am 
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I think they are going to hand it to the young kid in spring.


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 Post Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:14 am 
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That's a good article, and hits on an interesting point that most of us miss when discussing how the Buccos can improve for next season and moving forward. Lost in the discussions on who they need to sign and/or re-sign as FAs is the fact that the key to this organizations success doesn't lie with Derrek Lee, or Clint Barmes, but rather with the cornerstone players...McCutchen, Walker, Tabata, Alvarez. Can these guys take the next step(s), and become the impact players we all hope they can be? (pitching aside, of course!)

Also, count me in the group that thinks moving Hanrahan is a good idea. I doubt that his trade value will ever be higher. IMO, they can get a quality return by putting him on the block.

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 Post Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:34 pm 
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It's a damn shame, but you are probably right about Hammer. We'll see. If they do trade him, they'd better damn well get something worthwhile in return. Neal's trades have been a little better lately, but not always so great early on. About mid-range overall.

I just fucking hate always dealing from a position of weakness. But what are ya gonna do.

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