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FortyThree
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:51 am |
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_________________ And then you take a good look around and they stole your rock n roll And once it's gone you'll never get it back
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:53 pm |
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FortyThree wrote: Jeemie wrote: I can see what you're saying 43...I just see no point in your saying it.
People are going to read/listen to who they are going to read/listen to. I'm saying it because we see waaaaay too much Bob Smizik on this board. Quote: Branding them as stupid for doing so only makes you look like you're putting on airs (I'M in the media, and I know who's important. Listen to ME).
Just let 'em read/listen to/quote whoever they are going to read/listen to/quote and then debate the substance (or lack thereof) of it all later. No one is stupid for reading Bob Smizik. They're just engaging in a pointless activity. Smizik made his living, for years, being a contrarian. He took the stance opposite the most popular public opinion and got readers because of it. He made his living being a troll. Would any of you read a column written by Switz? Quote: I hate branding of people as "not worthy of attention" ahead of time.
I hate Bouchette...I still read and debate what he writes. Bouchette and Smizik are entirely different animals. Bouchette's not a columnist. He's a beat reporter. There isn't a single person in this world outside of those who work for the Steelers that knows more about the inner workings of the team. If Bouchette says it, it's legit. All Smizik is doing is giving you an opinion. What are his credentials? He has none. Same with Ron Cook. Being old shouldn't be the only reason your opinion is supposed to matter. excellent point about Smizik making his living as a troll contrarian -- exactly right on distinguishing smizik from bouchette - totally different animals
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MeanJoeGreene75
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:47 pm |
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JackLambert58 wrote: To each his or her own. The same applies to John Steigerwald, Ed Bouchette, Ron Cook, Mark Madden, Mark Kaboly, (insert your favorite yinzer sports columnist/reporter/media type here), If you like them, fine. If you don't, don't read them. The thing that always gets me is that instead of actually reading the article referenced, folks just automatically discount it because they despise the source. I understand this board as a rule does that with Florio and pansy-lawyer-talk. I'm not crazy about Smizik either - perhaps it is time for him to get on with his life's work - but if brings up a relevant topic, then why the hell not read it, post about and discuss it? If you don't like it, just move along. Posting that Smizik or anyone else is a moron without discussing the topic is about as lazy as posting links from Steelers Depot.
For relevance and truth.
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swissvale72
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:27 pm |
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MeanJoeGreene75 wrote: JackLambert58 wrote: To each his or her own. The same applies to John Steigerwald, Ed Bouchette, Ron Cook, Mark Madden, Mark Kaboly, (insert your favorite yinzer sports columnist/reporter/media type here), If you like them, fine. If you don't, don't read them. The thing that always gets me is that instead of actually reading the article referenced, folks just automatically discount it because they despise the source. I understand this board as a rule does that with Florio and pansy-lawyer-talk. I'm not crazy about Smizik either - perhaps it is time for him to get on with his life's work - but if brings up a relevant topic, then why the hell not read it, post about and discuss it? If you don't like it, just move along. Posting that Smizik or anyone else is a moron without discussing the topic is about as lazy as posting links from Steelers Depot.
For relevance and truth. Might be an oddball personality trait, 58....but the less I like a writer, the more I tend to read them. For instance, I despite The Fat Fuck Peter King.....but tend to read his bullshit as much as anything else.
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JackLambert58
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:41 pm |
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swissvale72 wrote: MeanJoeGreene75 wrote: JackLambert58 wrote: To each his or her own. The same applies to John Steigerwald, Ed Bouchette, Ron Cook, Mark Madden, Mark Kaboly, (insert your favorite yinzer sports columnist/reporter/media type here), If you like them, fine. If you don't, don't read them. The thing that always gets me is that instead of actually reading the article referenced, folks just automatically discount it because they despise the source. I understand this board as a rule does that with Florio and pansy-lawyer-talk. I'm not crazy about Smizik either - perhaps it is time for him to get on with his life's work - but if brings up a relevant topic, then why the hell not read it, post about and discuss it? If you don't like it, just move along. Posting that Smizik or anyone else is a moron without discussing the topic is about as lazy as posting links from Steelers Depot.
For relevance and truth. Might be an oddball personality trait, 58....but the less I like a writer, the more I tend to read them. For instance, I despite The Fat Fuck Peter King.....but tend to read his bullshit as much as anything else. I don't think it's that oddball Swiss. Hell, both of us listen to the Douchebag Fuck Michael Felger and the Overly Annoying Fuck Tony Mazzerotti on a daily basis. Who knows? Maybe we like to be pissed off. 
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:55 pm |
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MeanJoeGreene75 wrote: With some exception, I find the best sports analysis and discussion, on any of the major 3 sports I follow, to be right here on SF. Front page, threads, doesn't matter. Not everyone knows what they are talking about, and not on every subject, but by and large, most members of our community here are pretty damn knowledgeable and informative. being knowledgeable and informative is great... the guys everyone hates for getting paid to write about pittsburgh sports get paid for their ability to write coherent and grammatically-correct articles/columns on deadline and at a relatively high frequency, not because they love the pittsburgh steelers, penguins, pirates, power, passion, riverhounds or rollergirls. i would gladly accept a job as a ravens beat writer even though i despise the team.
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Suwanee88
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:36 pm |
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FortyThree wrote: The problem with Smizik is that he's an old, out-of-touch dick. And on top of that I feel like most posters on this message board have a better sense of reality and at least as much sports knowledge as he has.
He's a columnist. Well, he was. Now he's writing for a website no one reads because it would've cost the PG too much to buyout his contract and he wasn't ready to retire to his home planet just yet.
He's irrelevant. In the Pittsburgh sports landscape there are maybe 2-3 guys who have any kind of stroke and any kind of built-in reputation to actually matter.
Bob Pompeani, Stan Savran, and Mark Madden. That's it. There isn't a single reporter, columnist, or radio host that matters besides those three.
And if I had to make a list of all the sports figures in Pittsburgh, Smizik would be near the bottom sandwiched between Jory Rand and Andrew Stockey. Wow - this sounds a little personal 43.....maybe Smizik pissed you off? I have a little TV/Radio experience and familiarity with the Pittsburgh media. I have also had some big jobs in a couple of other industries and I can tell you what I think - I think the Pittsburgh sports media industry is a speck on a horse's ass and a lot of them are out of touch dicks - those guys know ZERO about the real world - but talking with them behind the scenes - most of them come across as arrogant out o ftouch dicks who think they know a lot.. Stan, by far, is the best guy in Pittsburgh sports. I also find it funny that you rip Smizik for being a contrarian but respect Madden? Isnt Madden a classless contrarian? Thats how I define Madden and I like the guy - he is good radio.
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swissvale72
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 10:58 pm |
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JackLambert58 wrote: swissvale72 wrote: MeanJoeGreene75 wrote: JackLambert58 wrote: To each his or her own. The same applies to John Steigerwald, Ed Bouchette, Ron Cook, Mark Madden, Mark Kaboly, (insert your favorite yinzer sports columnist/reporter/media type here), If you like them, fine. If you don't, don't read them. The thing that always gets me is that instead of actually reading the article referenced, folks just automatically discount it because they despise the source. I understand this board as a rule does that with Florio and pansy-lawyer-talk. I'm not crazy about Smizik either - perhaps it is time for him to get on with his life's work - but if brings up a relevant topic, then why the hell not read it, post about and discuss it? If you don't like it, just move along. Posting that Smizik or anyone else is a moron without discussing the topic is about as lazy as posting links from Steelers Depot.
For relevance and truth. Might be an oddball personality trait, 58....but the less I like a writer, the more I tend to read them. For instance, I despite The Fat Fuck Peter King.....but tend to read his bullshit as much as anything else. I don't think it's that oddball Swiss. Hell, both of us listen to the Douchebag Fuck Michael Felger and the Overly Annoying Fuck Tony Mazzerotti on a daily basis. Who knows? Maybe we like to be pissed off.  I guess so, 58. I hate those mother-fuckers, Felger & Mazzerotti, but I tune 'em in every day on the way home.
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FortyThree
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 5:18 pm |
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Suwanee88 wrote: Wow - this sounds a little personal 43.....maybe Smizik pissed you off? I've never met the man so no he's never done anything to piss me off. Quote: I have a little TV/Radio experience and familiarity with the Pittsburgh media. I have also had some big jobs in a couple of other industries and I can tell you what I think - I think the Pittsburgh sports media industry is a speck on a horse's ass and a lot of them are out of touch dicks - those guys know ZERO about the real world - but talking with them behind the scenes - most of them come across as arrogant out o ftouch dicks who think they know a lot.. Stan, by far, is the best guy in Pittsburgh sports. ...Ok. Quote: I also find it funny that you rip Smizik for being a contrarian but respect Madden? Isnt Madden a classless contrarian? Thats how I define Madden and I like the guy - he is good radio. I respect Madden because he's the #1 radio guy in Pittsburgh. He's the only one who gets any kind of ratings. The fact that Madden's actually a really good guy in real life adds to that fact. Smizik's blog gets read by a bunch of old people (no offense to yinz who read his blog) on the internet. Smizik is irrelevant in this town, and Pittsburgh isn't exactly an exploding market. By the way, when it comes to radio, no one in Pittsburgh is doing anything new or cutting edge. Everything is stale and boring and has been done for YEARS now. Most of that is because of the audience.
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 8:39 pm |
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I'm surprised the Legendary Sam Nover hasn't been mentioned. He dressed flashy and his sideburns were as bad as Elvis ! 
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