Ok then. We'll go with your idea of Marneau who is 31, with his concussion history, 14 mil a yr salary and .244 average. He would fit right in with Barmes and McGehee and undoubtably put the Bucs over the top! You win!

He is hitting for an OPS of .850. He would instantly become the Pirates best hitter not named Andrew McCutchen, and it's not close.

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Yep i'm sold...go get him!

Bingo

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Why wouldn't the twin pick up part of his salary - like the yanks an Burnett - for the right deal.
850ops isn't good enough for you and likely to improve as he gets back into the game.

Now - I didn't say he is optimal. I say he can be reasonably had if you think he will hold up?
Trumbo will not be traded
And the remarks weren't at you - there was a comment a few pages back about trump being possible because he is blocked and another assuming he wasn't playing that much. He has an ops over 1.000, is young and cheap - Fuget about it

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What's the right deal that the Twins would even consider picking up part of his salary? I like Morneau, i really do. But the Twins arent the Yankees. Would it take giving up JMac? Or the highly touted arms in the farm? Marte? If they were going to do that, then go after Castro because SS is another position that desperately needs filled on this team.

They aren't going to give up any of those guys for Morneau
I don't think they will do anything like that so,it's likely pointless talk
Castro is a whole different story if he is really available. Go get him - Marte and whoever else except the two big SPs

Someone mentioned Logan Morrison once - cold he be Available ?

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now epstein's saying castro's not available... usa today ran the story claiming inside sources told them "everyone but Jeff Samardzija" can be acquired via trade.

"Starlin Castro is the type of player we're looking to build around," Epstein said Thursday. "There has been no trade consideration with him, whatsoever."

but Monday, he said... ""I never understood why there would ever be an untouchable," Epstein said Monday. "All you're doing is limiting your opportunity. That said, there are core pieces that it's almost impossible to foresee moving. You would have to be completely blown away to even contemplate it."

figured it was too good to be true.

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I think he could be landed with two decent prospects. It wouldn't take a top 5 prospect in the organization. If that is the asking price the answer would be no. Cole, Taillon, and Marte would be off limits. Bucs have several major league ready prospects they could deal and a few more fringy types in the lower minors to sweeten it. Twins really need pitching at all levels. I think a package like Charlie Morton, Justin Wilson, and maybe someone like Victor Black would be a pretty decent deal for them. If they are willing to pick up a decent portion of his salary then the package could be upgraded, but I don't see the need for the Bucs to require the Twins pay much of his salary. Not sure why people think $14 million is such a deal breaker. They offered Derrek Lee arbitration last year. If he would have accepted they would have been paying him at least $8 million this season. If Morneau continues to play as he has the last few weeks $14 million would be right around what his value would be on the open market. It isn't like they would be grossly overpaying for him. Also the Bucs spent $17 million on draft last year. This year with the draft spending cap the league instituted they can only spend $6.5 million. The assumption is at least some of that extra cash will go towards a larger payroll for the major league roster. Taking on a year and half of a contract like Morneau's should be financially feasible and not too big of a risk.



I threw out Logan Morrison as a player they should target a few weeks ago but things have changed since then so much that it wouldn't be plausible now. Gaby Sanchez got demoted and Austin Kearns got hurt. Morrison is now their every day first basemen. Additionally Josh Johnson has righted himself and the rest of their rotation is healthy and throwing well now. Starting pitching doesn't look to be a huge need for them. Can't see the Marlins being in on Hanrahan now either as Heath Bell been pitching better after an early rough start to the season.

Steel Pro, i'm with you man. If Morneau can be had for a reasonable price, i'm all for it..especially for the guys you proposed. He's exactly the type of bat that the Bucs need. I guess i'm just timid when it comes to guys like that only because i look at the track record of guys that the Pirates sign as FA's or trade for. Lee put up nice #s here but was hurt for a long stretch and i could just tell by his body language that he didn't want to be here. It'll be interesting to see what the Bucs do.