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 Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:59 pm 
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I agree with Jeemie on Bylsma and his undisciplined team , and his lack of fire ! This team has underachieved so far , the mental mistakes and lack of team defense is a joke.

It sure looks like he has lost this team. If we get swept, his job should be on the line along with a few forwards and at least 2 of the defenseman.

Fluery has been horrible and Malkin has been a ghost in the playoffs !


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 Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:23 pm 
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rhino43grr wrote:
hardnosed wrote:
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They get swept, and Bylsma should be gone.

Hell...maybe he should be gone anyway.


Wow.


jeems needs to preface all his penguins posts with:

i don't follow hockey, but here's my emotional opinion...

it's like yinzer sports talk radio transcribed.


I've been following hockey since the 1970s.

Seriously...a team that scores 108 points in the regular season gets dismantled in the first round, blowing winnable game after winnable game with undisciplined play...and the coach shouldn't be held accountable?

If he knows what needs to be corrected, and his players aren't listening to him, then he should be held accountable.

If he doesn't know what needs to be fixed, then he's blind and dumb.

If they had just lost this series, I wouldn't be saying this.

But they have not just lost...they have lost BADLY. Playing worse hockey than a bar league team.

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 Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:14 pm 
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Jeemie wrote:
What is Bylsma telling them in practices?

Has he lost this team?

A 4:1 Cup favorite ought not get swept in 4 straight while playing some of the most undisciplined hockey I've ever seen (and I'm not talking about the chippiness).

They get swept, and Bylsma should be gone.

Hell...maybe he should be gone anyway.



It is odd that hockey is the only sport that people would even entertain this thought. Don't get me wrong, the penguins play in this series has disgusted me. But we are talking about a coach that won the cup just a few years ago. This is a coach that held a team together last year after their elite players were lost to injury. Bylsma deserves a longer leash than this.


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 Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:53 pm 
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I don't know if he should be canned, but I totally hear what Jeemie is saying.

The lack of emotion and enthusiasm that I see from Bylsma is troubling to me. I'm not saying he needs to be Don Cherry out there, but he literally watches his ELITE team get dismantled three straight games, and all thee fucking guy does is stand there blank faced with his arms crossed chewing bubble gum.

Hockey, more than any other sport, is not what have you done, it's what have you done lately. Look at organizations like MTL and TOR. I'm not suggesting we model our organization after theirs, but those teams have a ton of young talent, and should be winning more games. They don't, so management cans the coach and tries to find someone better. If Bylsma is wasting time with an offensive unit that rivals maybe some of the best in the last 40 years, then it is HIM that needs to go, and go now.

These last three games have been three of the most embarrassing hockey games I have ever watched as a Pens fan. Don't forget we also squandered a 2-0 series lead last year against Tampa. We are underachieving with this talent, and I, along with Jeemie, thinks it does have a lot to do with coaching.

Scott Ferrell, maybe the biggest Pens fan on the planet, said this as well. Starting Fluery yesterday was fucking STUPID. Shitty coaching, top to bottom. He better be in some asses on Wednesday or I am officially on the can Disco Dan bandwagon.


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 Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:08 pm 
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SteelPro wrote:
Jeemie wrote:
What is Bylsma telling them in practices?

Has he lost this team?

A 4:1 Cup favorite ought not get swept in 4 straight while playing some of the most undisciplined hockey I've ever seen (and I'm not talking about the chippiness).

They get swept, and Bylsma should be gone.

Hell...maybe he should be gone anyway.



It is odd that hockey is the only sport that people would even entertain this thought. Don't get me wrong, the penguins play in this series has disgusted me. But we are talking about a coach that won the cup just a few years ago. This is a coach that held a team together last year after their elite players were lost to injury. Bylsma deserves a longer leash than this.


It's typical Yinzer fan overreactions. They get their blood boiling and immediately feel the need to throw someone to the curb.

Fire Lebeau!
Fire Tomlin!
Cut Ike!
Cut Troy!
Cut Harrison!
Cut Ben!
Cut Wallace!
Fire Dixon!
Fire Bylsma!
Fire Shero!
Cut Fleury!
Cut Letang!

Last season was a wash considering we were missing two of the top 5 players in the world for most of the year. This year will obviously be a huge disappointment if we do end up losing to Philly. But you don't fire Bylsma over it. You give him a year to rebound. He's a young coach who's still learning his craft. He's going to make bad decisions along the way, but if he shows promise, then you stick with him and give him chances to correct his shortcomings from year-to-year. Overall, Bylsma has been a very solid coach for us. I just think we're seeing some of those shortcomings this year, and yes, he is getting outcoached right now. But you don't fire him for it. You give him a chance to redeem himself. If he does, then he's that much better of a coach going forward. Over time, those incremental improvements could see him go from a solid coach, to an outstanding one. And if he doesn't progress over time, and he continues to get outcoached in the playoffs year after year, then you explore the idea of finding a replacement.

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 Post Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:26 am 
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hardnosed wrote:
Jeemie wrote:
They get swept, and Bylsma should be gone.

Hell...maybe he should be gone anyway.


Wow.

I agree - crazy - but it wouldnt surprise me in the NHL - like no other league, this league has an incredibly short memory with their head coaches.


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 Post Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:58 am 
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Crosby4Life wrote:
SteelPro wrote:
Jeemie wrote:
What is Bylsma telling them in practices?

Has he lost this team?

A 4:1 Cup favorite ought not get swept in 4 straight while playing some of the most undisciplined hockey I've ever seen (and I'm not talking about the chippiness).

They get swept, and Bylsma should be gone.

Hell...maybe he should be gone anyway.



It is odd that hockey is the only sport that people would even entertain this thought. Don't get me wrong, the penguins play in this series has disgusted me. But we are talking about a coach that won the cup just a few years ago. This is a coach that held a team together last year after their elite players were lost to injury. Bylsma deserves a longer leash than this.


It's typical Yinzer fan overreactions. They get their blood boiling and immediately feel the need to throw someone to the curb.

Fire Lebeau!
Fire Tomlin!
Cut Ike!
Cut Troy!
Cut Harrison!
Cut Ben!
Cut Wallace!
Fire Dixon!
Fire Bylsma!
Fire Shero!
Cut Fleury!
Cut Letang!

Last season was a wash considering we were missing two of the top 5 players in the world for most of the year. This year will obviously be a huge disappointment if we do end up losing to Philly. But you don't fire Bylsma over it. You give him a year to rebound. He's a young coach who's still learning his craft. He's going to make bad decisions along the way, but if he shows promise, then you stick with him and give him chances to correct his shortcomings from year-to-year. Overall, Bylsma has been a very solid coach for us. I just think we're seeing some of those shortcomings this year, and yes, he is getting outcoached right now. But you don't fire him for it. You give him a chance to redeem himself. If he does, then he's that much better of a coach going forward. Over time, those incremental improvements could see him go from a solid coach, to an outstanding one. And if he doesn't progress over time, and he continues to get outcoached in the playoffs year after year, then you explore the idea of finding a replacement.


Maybe- but as I said- this is underachievement of almost historical proportions.

Even 1993 wasn't this bad, in my opinion.

If it wasn't this bad, I would have cut Bylsma more slack.

But the Penguins have had leads in every game...in two of the games, multi-goal leads...and have pissed them away with the sloppiest, shittiest defensive play I personally have witnessed in some time.

If that isn't on coaching, then I don't know what is.

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 Post Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:06 am 
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Let's go with you "don't know what it is."


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 Post Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:14 am 
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Hockey, more than any other sport, is not what have you done, it's what have you done lately. Look at organizations like MTL and TOR. I'm not suggesting we model our organization after theirs, but those teams have a ton of young talent, and should be winning more games. They don't, so management cans the coach and tries to find someone better


Yea and tell me what either of those storied franchises have accomplished over the past 20 years? Essentially jack shit because they attempt to cater to their fickle fanbase everytime they have a poor outing.

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 Post Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:33 am 
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i like how jeemie is acting like the flyers being able to beat the penguins is some shocking new development that was totally unexpected coming into the playoffs and clearly an indication of bylsma losing the team and/or his mind...

we went 1-4-1 against them in the regular season.

the flyers obviously match up very well against the penguins... probably because they intentionally built their roster with the penguins in mind.

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