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 Post Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:08 pm 
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SteelDrama wrote:
Great info and insight as always Perch...I'm far too lazy to look it up but weren't Heyward and 6th rd pick Keith Williams also in for an official visit last year?


Keith Williams yes, good catch. Heyward wasn't brought in, but the entire coaching staff went to Ohio State's pro day to work him out.


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 Post Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:51 am 
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this helps me confirm my first 2 picks:

1. Mike Adams
2. Ronnell Lewis

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 Post Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:41 pm 
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Sarge I would be nonplussed to say the least if that's how roundup one and two played out.

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 Post Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:20 am 
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TB wrote:
I know it has been talked about before on here, and what I'm about to post is probably a waste of time, but it's always interesting to look at our past official visits compared with who the Steelers actually drafted those years (as will this thread be interesting to check back on after draft weekend). Here's the links for the past three years of visits:

2011 - http://steelerfury.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12790&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=official+visits+thread

2010 - http://steelerfury.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5770&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=prospects+visits

2009 - http://steelerfury.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=prospects+visits

Some running thoughts:

-- In those three years, the Steelers drafted 26 players. 10 of those 26 players had either taken an official visit or were considered a local visit.

-- Generally, the position that sees the most visitors brought in does see that position drafted in multiple numbers. In 2011, a position leading 7 CBs were brought in for a visit, with 2 CBs being drafted that year. In 2010, a position leading 8 WRs visited, with 2 WRs drafted. In 2009, a position leading 8 CBs were brought in for a visit and 2 were drafted.

-- Interestingly enough, when a position led the way in the number of visits, players from that position pool who specifically visited were drafted by us in all but one instance. In 2011 we looked at 7 CBs, 2 were drafted, and those two were both official visitors in Allen and Brown. In 2010 we looked at 8 WRs, 2 were drafted, and those two were official visitors in Sanders and Brown. In 2009 we looked at 8 CBs, 2 were drafted, and one was an official visitor (Joe Burnett) while the other was rumored to have visited but technically didn't (Keenan Lewis). Although this could be a Baron Batch situation where Lewis might have visited like Batch supposedly did, although Batch isn't listed as an official visitor in 2010. All this says: while only 38% of our draftees were visitors, when we drafted from the position we scouted the most in a draft season, 83% of the time we ended up drafting a player that visited.

-- The outcome of the positions we drafted was greatly influenced by the positions we looked at with our visits. In 2009 only 4 out of our 30 visits were from a position we didn't end up addressing in the draft: Phil Loadholt (OT), Lawrence Sidbury (LB), Louis Delmas (S), and Spence Adkins (LB). In 2010, only 5 of the 30 visits were from positions we didn't later draft: Earl Thomas (S), Mike Iupati (G), Darrell Stuckey (S), Jacques McClendon (G), and Linval Joseph (DT). This is somewhat debatable since I consider Chris Scott a drafted RT prospect, but if we consider him a drafted guard, which would eliminate Iupati and McClendon here, there we no tackles drafted then and an equal amount of tackles scouted that weren't drafted (2). In 2011 we saw 11 of 30 visits come from positions not drafted: Denarius Moore (WR), Edmund Gates (WR), Austin Pettis (WR), Greg Little (WR), Vincent Brown (WR), Julius Thomas (TE), Weslye Saunders (TE), Kenrick Ellis (DT), Phil Taylor (DT), Frank Kearse (DT), and Anthony Gray (DT). It should be noted that we only had 7 picks in 2011, as opposed to 10 picks in 2010 and 9 picks in 2009. Overall, even with 2011's inflated numbers, that still only produces 22% of our 30 visitors coming from positions we didn't draft.

So what does all this tell us for this year?

So far, we've had 25 official visits. We currently have 10 picks in the upcoming draft.

Odds are that 4 of those picks will come from this pool of 30 that's coming together.

Interestingly enough, this is the first year that either CB or WR didn't lead the way in visits (or come close really). It looks like the Steelers like the young players they have at those two positions.

So far, we've brought in more OLBs (4) than any other position. While there are still 5 visitors left to be announced, there are only two other positions that really have a chance to reasonably overtake OLB, those being ILB (3 brought in), and TE (3 brought in). Those are the only three positions with 3 or more players represented in our current visitor pool.

Whatever position ends up leading the way in number of visits, there's an 83% chance based on our three year sample that two players from that visitor group at that position will be Steelers on draft day. And since all of those picks from the most scouted position in our three year sample were mid to late rounders (Burnett and Lewis as CBs in '09, Sanders and Brown as WRs in '10, and Brown and Allen as CBs in 2011), reasonably we could guess that those players will only come from the projected mid to late round pool. For those positions, those players are:

OLB: Cam Johnson and Ronnell Lewis
ILB: Mychal Kendricks and Jerrell Harris
TE: Two from Michael Egnew, David Paulson, and Lardarius Webb

I'll update this once the official 30 is known, but there's a good chance based off this very small sample size that whatever position ends up being scouted the most will produce two mid to late round picks that come from our official visitor list. If it holds up now with OLB leading the way, there's a 83% chance based on this three year look that both Cam Johnson and Ronnell Lewis will be drafted as Steelers. Once again though, this can completely change given our last five visits to come and the fact that this small sample size might amount to nothing. :lol: Plus, if there's a tie in the number of positions scouted, I don't know what to make of that either hehe. Should be fun to keep an eye on though. Again, I'll update some thoughts here once the other five visitors are known.

Great stuff TB - thanks, was wondering about this.


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