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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:32 am |
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Gearing up for the season, it seems like every publication is regurgitating this nonsense about the Steelers being too old in their preseason prognostication articles. I figured I'd humor the idea of cutting every player on the roster 30 or older except for Polamalu and Roethlisberger (please don't turn this into an IC "veteran leaders" flame war thread) to see what the Steelers roster would look like. Here is what I got: Quote: Offense = 25 average age (24.5)
OT: Adams 22 Gilbert 24 Colon 28
OG/C: Pouncey 23 Decastro 22 Foster 26 Legursky 26 Beachum 23
RB: Redman 27 Mendenhall 25 Rainey 24 Dwyer 22 Batch 24 Clay 24
WR: Wallace 25 Brown 24 Sanders 25 Clemons 23 Maze 23
QB: Ben 30 J. Johnson 23
TE/FB: Miller 29 Saunders 23 Paulson 23 Johnson 24
A little thin at backup QB and OT, but essentially the same offense the team will field this season. Starks and Cotchery are the only notable losses, neither is a starter. Quote: Defense = 25 average age (24.3) DE: Hood 25 Heyward 23 Bryant 24 Woods 25 Igbinosun 21
NT Mcclendon 26 Ta'amu 21
OLB: Woodley 27 Worilds 24 Carter 23 Robinson 22
ILB Spence 22 Timmons 26 Sylvester 24 Johnson 29
CB: Brown 23 Allen 23 Lewis 26 Carter 24 Frederick 22 Mcfadden 23
S: Polamalu 31 Mundy 27 Cromartie Smith 25 Golden 21 James Harrison is the big loss. Keisel, Clark, Taylor, Hampton, and Foote appear to have replacements on the roster. For all the moaning the media does about the Steelers being old, I think you could make the argument that if they cut every old player on the roster they still have enough talent to be a playoff team. 50 offensive and defensive players with an average age under 25 years old. I think it's safe to say as long as Ben stays healthy, this team is going to be a contender.
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VanWilder
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:01 am |
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It's funny how 6 guys out of 53 put the avg age up. I think these guys factor in guys like Charlie Batch, who likely wont even see the field, when determining the avg roster age. Avg 25?!?  That could be the youngest team EVER that could be a legit Super Bowl contender. Good post!
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SteelPerch
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:03 am |
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From Alan Robinson in the Trib Quote: 7 Too many 30-somethings? The Steelers still have plenty of 30-plus players remaining even after all the offseason departures. There are 15 on their camp roster, including Roethlisberger and Troy Polamalu. Some players hit the wall once they reach 30, becoming more prone to up-and-down performances and injuries. Obviously, the Steelers need a lot more good years out of arguably their two highest-profile players. Is 15 too many 30-somethings on an 90 man camp roster? Only 7 are starters. The Patriots have 16 30-somethings on their roster. The Ravens have 11, but 8 figure to be starters. Those "young" Chargers have 20 30+ players on the roster.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:18 am |
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it's hard to argue the point on O.
on D tho? your post shows that we have 7 30+ starters on D. yes, if you don't count one of them, then we only have 6:/
for the 'under 30' version of our D, i'm happy at DE, LOLB, and one ILB spot. then 7 question marks; guys that have never started a season in the NFL and weren't considered high-end prospects coming out. but next man up and the standard is the standard etc.
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VanWilder
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:29 am |
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mick fadden wrote: on D tho? your post shows that we have 7 30+ starters on D. yes, if you don't count one of them, then we only have 6:/ Starting the season, Ike Troy Clark Foote Harrison & Keisel. Hamp is iffy, but he's a spot starter anyway.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:30 am |
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Quote: Steelers are OLD Where have we heard this before? Not unusual for most teams to field a half dozen 30+ players. I don't understand the media fixation with Steelers players ages. Seems to me like so many out there just want the Steelers to fall off the face of the planet that they try to turn wishful thinking into reality. Good, I love being the underdog and counted out. See ya in January bitches. 
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Donnie Brasco
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:41 am |
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Steelafan77 wrote: Quote: Steelers are OLD Where have we heard this before? I don't understand the media fixation with Steelers players ages. It's Warren Sapp. He said something that made sense after getting our asses whooped in Balt. Averge Fan Joe thinks "yea he's right...they did just get beat pretty bad. Warren Sapp seems like a smart guy and I believe him". Average Fan Joe goes back to following his favorite team and watching fantasy stats the rest of the year. Sees the playoff highlights shown a billion times where 30+ year old Ike Taylor gets outrun to the EZ for the win. Repeat something enough times and anyone will believe it is true.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:41 am |
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Not being a dick I pointed this out in May...You could hear crickets.
The Steelers will be too young next year...I don't get it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:43 am |
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Yep, good stuff Perch.
It really just comes down to lazy research/reporting from the national sports media. It's sort of like how in 2007 when we were still hearing stuff about how good and physical the Steelers o-line was when it was clear to anyone who really watched the team that the level of play and level of talent had dropped significantly from where it had been (Sean Mahan, anyone?). It also took them forever to come around to the idea that Roethlisberger was actually carrying the offense and not the running game, among other examples.
That write up I did a few months back on the Steelers youth on offense... when you look at the top 12 players on offense for the Steelers going into 2012, if you factor Mike Adams as a starter (and I believe he will start), the Steelers will have the youngest offense in the entire NFL this season. And as you hit on, with the D we've got some aging stars, like any team that has been good, but the front seven has quality young replacements in every spot outside of arguably replacing Harrison. We all like our young corners and we'll need to address safety here in the next year or two, but the Steelers really are in a great position with their roster right now. In next year's draft that's probably the two areas they will target outside of BPA thinking.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:52 am |
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Quote: 30+ year old Ike Taylor gets outrun to the EZ for the win. Has nothing to do with Ike's age. I just won't except that as the cause of that play being successful for the donks. I think there was a miscommunication in the secondary and the donks took advantage of it. JMO
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