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 Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:30 pm |
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ReigningSteel wrote: Iron_City wrote: rhino43grr wrote: i don't know of many good body-resistance methods for building significant lower-body strength, which is one reason i imagine guys who only do body-resistance training are a very small minority in football. power clean with over-under grip and front hack squat both are killer for core strength because you have to snap your hips to finish Can you explain to me how you do a power clean with an over-under grip? wide base, grip inside your knees. Butt down, chin and eyes up, lift and roll your shoulders back but I'm going to guess your being sarcastic so fire away
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:59 pm |
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over/under probably refers to a deadlift. can't do a powerclean with an opposing grip like that.
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:25 pm |
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sgtrobo wrote: over/under probably refers to a deadlift. can't do a powerclean with an opposing grip like that.  my bad, thats what I meant couldn't figure out for the life of me why he's questioning the grip can you tell its been awhile since I've done them
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:01 pm |
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hahaha....no worries man, I didn't stop doing them until I annihilated my shoulder and neck a few years ago.  _________________
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:11 pm |
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:24 pm |
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FC wrote: Power Cleans Hang Cleans Military Press/Push Press. Explosive standing movements. Most things from the seated position or on your back are useless when it comes to functional football training NFL players are elite athletes....Different players do different things. Cross Fit to Hand Fighting with sticks Jerry Rice ran the hill Ngata trains in Sand Jon Kolb worked the farm Clay Jr trains MMA Resistance based training including plyometrics(Use of the body) is a large part of NFL off season training for some players. Examples LB's Safeties Tight Ends Safeties running backs want explosive training...Quickness power http://www.elitefts.com/documents/nfl_linebacker_program.htmhttp://www.defrancostraining.com/ask-joe-test/42-speedplyometricsconditioning/199-football-conditioning-the-right-way.htmlDB's and Wr's want speed. http://www.coachtomshaw.com/approach/Hope that helps to answer your quality question Sir Ngata need to train for stamina. 2 seasons in a row he has been a superstar in first 4-5 games then tail off begins to the point by the end of the season he was a milk carton candidate 2 years running. I bet I get hammered for this but to me the best DT in the division is Geno Atkins. He outplayed Ngata for most of the season.
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:31 pm |
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rhino43grr wrote: there aren't a ton of traditional bodyweight exercises that have any functional benefit in the game of football...
pull-ups/chin-ups work muscles that just aren't really all that important in football.
in my completely amateur opinion, the three most important lifts for a generic football player are:
incline bench
squat
power clean
IMO flat bench is overrated, incline bench translates better from a range of motion perspective.
the other lifts are mostly just there to strengthen the muscles that oppose the "football" muscles. Flat bench can actually damage your shoulders. Those who focus too much on flat bench and ignore their back can actually affect their posture and roll their shoulders forward.
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:32 pm |
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Geno Atkins is very good at what he does.
He guesses the count and explodes up field.
He can't anchor or beat blocks....He also rarely draws double teams rushing the passer playing beside Mike Johnson or Carlos Dunlap.
Atkins is a very solid player...Ngata is asked to do so much for the Ravens...I believe Ngata made Suggs an elite player
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 5:57 am |
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:06 am |
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Hack Squats
Squats
Leg Presses
Deadlifts
Power Cleans
Shoulder Press
Push Ups
Dips
Notice a trend? Most are exercises for the major muscles in the body...which is what is taxed during a football game.
The smaller muscles (biceps, calves, triceps, etc...) get worked while lifting for the major stuff.
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