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 Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:51 pm 
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Didn't see this posted anywhere here thought it would be good discussion topic. Seems like some interesting changes are on the horizon.

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ATLANTA -- The last time NFL owners converged on Atlanta for a set of meetings similar to this, tensions mounted and electricity flooded the hotel lobby as last year's labor dispute reached its peak.

This week, we're not expecting anything close to that.

Instead, for the first time in several years, the collective bargaining agreement remains firmly in place. The owners instead will spend Tuesday's meeting (many will arrive Monday) discussing several rules proposals that were tabled at the March meeting in Palm Beach.

Specifically, they'll vote on the possibility of requiring hip, thigh and knee pads starting in 2013, in addition to a tweak to the trade deadline, which might be extended by about two weeks, from Week 6 to Week 8.

Though none of the proposals should have a profound impact on the fan's perspective of the game, one NFL general manager said he's all for the extended trade deadline. The proposed change would give teams a little more time to see where they stand in the playoff mix before making potential roster adjustments.

Originally, the owners also planned to discuss a new rule that would provide an extra roster spot for a player who has been diagnosed with a concussion, but a league source said they've taken that proposal off the agenda for this week. It's probable that it will be discussed at a later time. An NFL GM expressed some concern about that possible rule (although he expected it to eventually pass), since he believes it could potentially be abused to make room for players at positional needs for a given week.

The league also will discuss a potential rule that would allow a team to return one player from injured reserve to the active roster by a certain point in the season. This rule received some attention during the March meeting, but the competition committee and the owners decided to wait before passing it.

Despite the drama of last year's July meetings in Atlanta, this week's agenda is much more like the standard meetings typical for this time of year.

Requiring players to wear certain leg pads might be among the rules that could face complaints from some -- mostly wide receivers, who want the ability to choose whether or not to wear pads that could deter their speed. Nonetheless, as commissioner Roger Goodell continues to search for ways to make the game safer, it certainly seems realistic that the rule will indeed be passed.

The owners already voted on the more significant rules changes back in March, including a failed proposal to send all replay reviews to the booth and a passed proposal to expand the new overtime rules from just the playoffs to the entire regular season. The league also passed a rule in March that will cause all turnovers to be reviewed (without requiring a coach's challenge).

As always, all proposals on Tuesday will require 24 of 32 votes (75 percent) for approval. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... ent_stream

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 Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:05 pm 
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the one rule they need to look at is the "too many defenders on the field" ........especially when a team is doing it on purpose........since it does a few things .....
1. gets another defender on the field when the other team is trying to catch up ....near the end of a half or game
2. since its only a 5 yard penalty
3. why not break up a pass in the endzone when it only costs 5 yards
4. eats clock..............
5. the penalty slows the game for a realing defense......lets them get set and make switches.....

we have seen some teams just throw 12 or even more on the field knowing they will break up the play, kill clock and just cost 5 yards......especially in the last 20-30 seconds

gotta be more of a penalty, 10 yard, re-set down.....and re-set clock

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 Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:27 pm 
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I'm curious why one of the rule changes not up for discussion is mandating players use the helmets that prevent the most concussions. Given a choice, I think I'd rather have arthritis in my hip or knee from too many hits than dementia.

Or is it just me?


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 Post Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:56 am 
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My main concern with these changes is the review of all turnovers! I really hope that doesn't slow the games down. Instant Replay Review as a whole, is such a major buzzkill when watching games! It very often just saps your energy and makes you want to turn off the game.


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 Post Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:00 am 
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stosh-67 wrote:
the one rule they need to look at is the "too many defenders on the field" ........especially when a team is doing it on purpose........since it does a few things .....
1. gets another defender on the field when the other team is trying to catch up ....near the end of a half or game
2. since its only a 5 yard penalty
3. why not break up a pass in the endzone when it only costs 5 yards
4. eats clock..............
5. the penalty slows the game for a realing defense......lets them get set and make switches.....

we have seen some teams just throw 12 or even more on the field knowing they will break up the play, kill clock and just cost 5 yards......especially in the last 20-30 seconds

gotta be more of a penalty, 10 yard, re-set down.....and re-set clock


They made that change for this season. Too many men on the field results in a deadball foul.

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 Post Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:59 am 
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well, that's one rule that favors the defense, then.

Making it a dead ball foul takes away the advantage the offense has when a defense is dealing with personnel confusion.

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 Post Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 8:08 am 
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well, that's one rule that favors the defense, then.

Making it a dead ball foul takes away the advantage the offense has when a defense is dealing with personnel confusion.

Yup................Manning, Brees, Brady, Favre...........all are/were very good at recognizing confusion on the defensive side of the ball, or too many men on the field and getting their teams to the LOS and snapping the ball.............many times when a defender is sprinting to the sideline.

The PS/Ben/Arians offense never really had a problem with this as we usually have been pretty honest and fair and waited for the defense to get set and for the clock to strike 1 before snapping.........as we very rarely or never caught a defense off guard, 12 men, or quick snap......................hoping that changes with Haley.

Anyway.........I agree with B2B.............do not think it should be a dead ball.............especially when most of the time a defense has 12 men on the field.......it is not on purpose ( i think) and it certainly penalizes the offense.....

I would go 5 yard penalty and reset the clock..................
with less than 2 minutes left in a half.....I would make it 10 yards and reset the clock

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Sometimes the defense puts too many players on the field on purpose.

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 Post Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:42 am 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
Didn't see this posted anywhere here thought it would be good discussion topic. Seems like some interesting changes are on the horizon.

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ATLANTA -- The last time NFL owners converged on Atlanta for a set of meetings similar to this, tensions mounted and electricity flooded the hotel lobby as last year's labor dispute reached its peak.


that just sounds dangerous. it's a shame it didn't get goodell.

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 Post Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:49 am 
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Specifically, they'll vote on the possibility of requiring hip, thigh and knee pads starting in 2013, in addition to a tweak to the trade deadline, which might be extended by about two weeks, from Week 6 to Week 8.


That'll increase player safety for sure. Concussions will be a thing of the past once guys have to wear thigh pads! :roll:

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Originally, the owners also planned to discuss a new rule that would provide an extra roster spot for a player who has been diagnosed with a concussion, but a league source said they've taken that proposal off the agenda for this week.


We don't want you letting guys with concussions play, but if you want to replace them you'd better already have someone on your 53-man roster.

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