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Iron_City
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:58 pm |
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I know I've been hung up on this lately, and its a real concern of mine. Done some research on it lately, but a very incomplete work. Listened to an interview and did some research on the "Mental Toughness Program" at IMG academies geared toward football players. Turns out many coaches and teams employ mental toughness coaches such as Tom Coughlin, Nick Saban, Jimbo Fisher, and NY Yankees. IMG coaches started working with a young Fred Taylor. He wasn't responding the leadership or coaching in his locker room. Apparently as hard as he tried, his performance wasn't peak. He couldn't taylor his regimen to play a full 16 game season. They benchmarked about 20 guys in Jags locker room they identified as leaders, and in at least contract #2, to find common characteristics. The two most common were they ALL came in at 6:30 am and ALL took ice baths after every workout. Taylor had been coming in 2 hours later. Taylor asked what he should do for those 2 hours. He was told just do what the veterans do. The young Fred Taylor started watching and acting like the leaders in his locker room, and he played the next 41 consecutive games in a row and retired 15th leading rusher of all time. This kind of stuff is real to me with so many young and impressionable minds on Steeler roster. I think its why you have 1 hit wonders, players and teams that can't sustain success. Why does this matter? -- The reason I'm finding out is "self talk". No matter who you are, you talk to yourself in your head. Probably mostly criticism. The average person speaks 800-1400 words per day to yourself whether you realize it or not. Its supposedly 10X that for athletes. Apparenty athletes respond to voice tone and body language of peers more than others. Which is a direct effect of proper leadership. You take for example when people say a CB that just go beat needs a "short memory". If he keeps replaying his mistake over and over, he's sure to get beat again. Now if your that CB and playing opposite Champ Bailey, watch him get beat, and overcome it, your more likely to rebound faster. This "self talk" in your head can help either acquire or rid of bad habits. Bad habits create bad practice, bad practice creates bad play. Theres a lot to it, from goal setting, to imagery (visualization) training, If you've ever competed and for a time period were "in a zone", then you realize that what that short term boost of confidence did for you. And if you could replicate every play, you would have. But you can't because its a mental state of mind. All this is geared toward when coaches say they need to change culture in the locker room. In our case, we need to sustain culture after losing several leaders. Each of those lost leaders was an ambassador to the coach to carry out his message and plan. anyhow, if anyone is interested, some good reading on mental toughness Quote: Role Clarity - This concerns the extent to which players are clear what their formal role is on the team. A lack of clarity can lead to confusion, reduced confidence and increased conflict among other players or coaches. Role Acceptance - This is the extent to which players are satisfied with their assigned role. It is possible to be clear about your role, yet be unhappy with it. Perceived Role Performance - This concerns how well players are performing their specific roles. Even if one is clear and accepting about their specific role, without adequate performance, overall team cohesion may suffer. http://www.mdsports.net/docs/mentaltoug ... otball.pdfQuote: “One of the common themes that I see at the highest levels is a large amount of preparation leading into what a coach is going to say,” Moawad said. “Relevant stories, analogies, inspirational quotes – they all set a tone.”
Coaches should focus not only on what they are saying, but how they are saying it, as athletes pick up more on the body language and tone than the actual words. Coaches should also be more specific with their messages.
“The easiest thing a coach can do is observe and report,” Moawad said. “’We aren’t defending well. We don’t have enough energy.’ A fan can do that. As a coach, you need to be better. Focus on exactly what your team should be doing.” Quote: When Jimbo Fisher took the head coach position at FSU, he told the world that he wanted to change the culture of the program. A large portion of that plan involved creating a leadership group consisting of key players on the team. The players serve as a mouthpiece for the coach, serve as a mentor to other teammates when needed and even discipline other players for things such as missing class or misrepresenting the team.
“You have to give that peer group real power,” Moawad said. “Empower them to be true ambassadors for the team.” http://blog.imgacademies.com/2012/05/03 ... ntal-game/Quote: Throughout the year, Saban will bring in Moawad -- whom he met while coaching the Miami Dolphins -- to run players through drills that reinforce specific mental traits. The exercise that helped Hightower understand why he needed to speak up during the Auburn game involves a group of players who are tasked with planning a barbecue. Each player wears a number on his head. He can't see the number, but his teammates can. A one is the low man on the totem pole. A nine is an alpha dog. Moawad instructs the players to treat one another in accordance to the number on each person's head. When the nine speaks, everyone listens and reacts. When the twos and threes speak, they are ignored. "You start to learn status," Moawad said. "The overall goal is learning where you fit in. At different times, you need to play different roles." Said left tackle Barrett Jones: "By the end, everyone clearly knew what number they were." Hightower hadn't realized during the Auburn game that he was already a nine. Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/w ... z1vMYAQlRHactually, as I read it in detail, that SI link right ^ there sums it up well
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:16 pm |
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Quality post imo
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Tomlination
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 8:01 pm |
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Yeah, but what was Moawad's 40 time?
Seriously, though, this is very interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing it.
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:13 pm |
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Quote: This "self talk" in your head can help either acquire or rid of bad habits. Bad habits create bad practice, bad practice creates bad play. Theres a lot to it, from goal setting, to imagery (visualization) training, If you've ever competed and for a time period were "in a zone", then you realize that what that short term boost of confidence did for you. And if you could replicate every play, you would have. But you can't because its a mental state of mind.
this is spot on really works in real life sales jobs or really any type of work it applies.
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:39 pm |
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OT- IC, If this subject is in your line of work, hats off to you for relating it to our Steelers. If it's not in your line of work & you're retired or something, I suggest fishing more. If it's outside your line of work & your still employed after putting all the research in, well then sir...you deserve a medal for being the most psychotic, passionate Steeler fan I've ever come across. That's dedication.
On topic, Sweed is a good example of getting into his own head. I know from experience that it's easy to fall out of "the zone" as soon as you realize you're in it. The mind is a crazy thing.
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:43 pm |
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anyone who thinks leadership in any type of situation is bogus simply needs to study a little more history.
great stuff IC, a lot of it applies and is a variation of stuff we do.
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:52 pm |
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While I agree with the concept, I could not keep from hearing Henry Winkler saying "visualize and attack".
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 11:25 pm |
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I will comment that I noticed that of the common characteristics they identified in the 20 Jaguar players they identified as leaders, none of those criteria were that they had to be Hall of Fame performers on the field. Or strong vocal leaders, or guys with charisma.
It appeared they had strong work habits and an established routine.
So my guess is there are plenty of veterans on the current Steelers' offense that could fill the role of leader.
Including a guy like, say Jericho Cotchery.
And I know Antonio Brown fits that role as well. I'm sure there are more, like Heath.
So thanks...this article makes me worry about any "leadership gap" on offense even less than I already was.
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:18 am |
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I might offer a different perspective...
Vets know how to take care of their body (recovery), and know it's importance. They've learned what works, at least for them. So Fred Taylor puts a little more focus and effort into helping his body recover, and he's healthier and more productive. No shocker there.
And every team has its vets that know how to watch film and know all the little things. So what is it that makes a Ben Roethlisberger look to and learn from scrubs like Maddox and Batch? It's a team culture. There's nothing special about "vet leaders" - more like mentors, little stuff like "hey, but the good coffee is down the hall in accounting". "IT" was there before Hines Ward, and will be there after Hines Ward.
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:04 am |
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Quote: The reason I'm finding out is "self talk". No matter who you are, you talk to yourself in your head. Probably mostly criticism. The average person speaks 800-1400 words per day to yourself whether you realize it or not. Its supposedly 10X that for athletes. Fuck no. I'm singing Sly and the Family Stone in my head... Drown out those negative thoughts with your iPod. Holy shit. It's such a simple trick. Athletes have a more developed internal dialogue because they spend more time effectively alone training. No shocker there. Quote: Vets know how to take care of their body (recovery), and know it's importance For myself, I think just getting older and having a couple more hard knocks makes you both tougher in terms of higher pain tolerance, and more aware of what kind of pain is resulting from what. As a result, you become more efficient about conditioning both on a moment to moment basis (correcting minor ergonomic flaws that lead to repetitive stress injuries) and strategically (quick to change a particular routine if it doesn't work, more likely to "play through pain" if it does). Quote: This kind of stuff is real to me with so many young and impressionable minds on Steeler roster. Little bit of chicken little here- shit, these guys got this far... More concerning to me than their internal dialogue is the external distractions that come with being 21 and handed a shit ton of money... How does that effect their motivation? What are they doing with their time now that NCAA minders aren't making them spend free time with tutors or practice? Quote: This "self talk" in your head can help either acquire or rid of bad habits. Bad habits create bad practice, bad practice creates bad play. Theres a lot to it, from goal setting, to imagery (visualization) training, If you've ever competed and for a time period were "in a zone", then you realize that what that short term boost of confidence did for you. I agree in part, I think internal dialogue, or cybernetics or whatever the hip term for positive self-visualization is these days helps, but only in a very limited way. You are much better off starting on "perfect" form slowly, then repeating it perfectly over and over and over, increasing the pace only as much as you can while still being perfect... I guess it's splitting semantic hairs, but this isn't "mental toughness" or "leadership" as you are discussing it here. It's basic discipline and good coaching. If I were an NFL coach with unlimited imaginary powers, there would be no "offseason"... The offseason would be filled with interviews, walk-throughs and conditioning. I would not risk players on the team having to motivate themselves- I would reinforce through actual practice, even if it's very low intensity practice, every single day, pretty much. You want time off for vacation? Fine, put in for it. So far as roles go- that is a fine line to walk. Most people when handed clear expectations are happy striving to meet them and do meet them. The #1 reason people, generally, are unhappy in their jobs is that they do not feel they are meeting clear expectations. However, competition is inherently about being outside your comfort zone- this creates a little bit of a paradox that is magnified in the context of professional sports. How do you simultaneously create a satisfying role that is accepted, but also coach your players to be at the edge, or outside of, their comfort zone constantly? This is not a player maturity or mental toughness issue. It's a coaching and "corporate culture" issue... You shouldn't and won't get that from vets.
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