Right on Jones....That's a point I did not consider...I understand the Steelers don't bring in many vets....But in culture building its an obvious point that I overlooked



I would agree with Jim Harbaugh..I respect Jim...He was a great leader for Michigan and the Colts...He did an amazing job at Stanford and now for the Niners.
I have zero respect for the fuck in Baltimore....I believe he inherited a great team...An aging team with a young starting quarterback....Still a very talented team.

Mike Tomlin is a great leader...I feel the best in the NFL. From a player/personnel angle can anyone name a single player with something negative to say about Tomlin...Holmes actually apologized to Tomlin before the Steelers organization when he was busted with herb.

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I was thinking more along the lines of outsiders that were brought in that changed the culture of their organization. Jim took over for a decade of failure, made some key changes but I think more improtantly changed who the 49ers were. He obviously had a tremendous amount of talent there, it just was poorly utilized and focused due to a decade of bad leadership.

John Harbaugh inherited maybe a stronger culture, but I think Baltimore's raw talent base is not maybe even as strong as SF's.

They are both kind of dicks- but they get shit done and their teams work hard for them.



The foregoing is not a knock on Tomlin at all. He came to a great culture in place and has enhanced it- which is tough to do. He filled very large shoes left behind by Bill Cowher almost without missing a beat.

I was thinking of leaders in the context of a "teardown" rather than succession when I mentioned the Harbaughs. In many ways, I think it takes far shrewder judgment to take over for a legend than it does to come in with a clean slate and clean house. In the latter case, you have a honeymoon period where you can really shitcan anyone, and everyone knows it- so they tend to work extra hard to make sure you know they are solid product. In Tomlin's case, there are things you want to do, but your people are wondering for a while if you are going to screw something up that works.

Tomlin is a great coach and a great leader by any measure. I agree with that statement completely.

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well said Jones, I agree. Basically the point I've been trying to make about leadership

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