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 Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 6:55 am 
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I've gone on record, a number of times, with the opinion that any advantage that the Patriots netted via the taping of signals was likely negligible. ...!

Totally agree, a few practice videos aren't going to be the reason they won 3 Super Bowls, it's overblown and just people being haters.


But.....Nick, and this is where I've agreed with Golic on his show this morning, you're caught cheating and it gives legitimacy to any opinion as to the impact of the cheating.

And the part of this continuing story that's not getting near enough spotlight right now is why the Douchebag Goodell destroyed the tapes.

Tedy Bruschi's a sanctimonious prick!! Had to say it again....fucker lands on the Saints and wants his team absolved. Saints got no fuckin' advantage via Bountygate. That part's inarguable.


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 Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 6:57 am 
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And to top it all off, this story about a coach who was reflecting the opinion of many fans is now the hot topic of every major sports site. Not because he was right to do so or it asks a question, but because Harbaugh was supposedly unjust and "How dare he question the Genius and the Holy Patriots?!?!" The only thing Harbaugh did wrong was backtrack and show us all what we already knew: He's a spineless turd.

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 Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:04 am 
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swissvale72 wrote:
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I've gone on record, a number of times, with the opinion that any advantage that the Patriots netted via the taping of signals was likely negligible. ...!

Totally agree, a few practice videos aren't going to be the reason they won 3 Super Bowls, it's overblown and just people being haters.


But.....Nick, and this is where I've agreed with Golic on his show this morning, you're caught cheating and it gives legitimacy to any opinion as to the impact of the cheating.

Just saying I think they would have still won without any taping of practices. Teams watch game film of upcoming opponents for every game. You get in a game, you still have to recognize everything on the fly and who's to say they didn't change things between the filiming and the game?

But the funnier thing I hear is people calling the Saints cheaters, like as if having those bounties gave them soe sort of "cheating edge", now that is funny BS!


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 Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:17 am 
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We've been over and over this....and noted that teams change up their defensive signals expressly to prevent them from being intercepted and used. And I'll say it again....if having the Steelers signals for the '01 AFCCG was such an advantage, you'd think the Pats would have scored more than one offensive touchdown.

But still....fuck them if they get pissed off cuz people call them cheaters and say they're championships are stained. People have a right to that opinion.


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 Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:34 am 
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I don't remember the details of the Spygate scandal. but wasn't it a camera man being caught filiming a specific practice? To me, because I'm logical and not hysterical, you can't extrapolate ---WITHOUT PROOF--- That this means they filmed the practices of every team before every previous game leading up to that.


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 Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:53 am 
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Nick79 wrote:
I don't remember the details of the Spygate scandal. but wasn't it a camera man being caught filiming a specific practice? To me, because I'm logical and not hysterical, you can't extrapolate ---WITHOUT PROOF--- That this means they filmed the practices of every team before every previous game leading up to that.


As I remember there were two components to Spygate:
*Filming of opponents defensive signals, which the Patriots continued to do despite all teams being told to stop this practice. Sound familiar? Continuing after being told to stop...and The Sanctimonious Fuck Tedy Bruschi has the nerve to pile on the Saints!!

*Allegation that the Pats filmed the Rams walk-thru on the day before their Super Bowl. This was alleged by a Pats employee....was never proven


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 Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:12 am 
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all the twitters on Mike & Mike are people saying CHeating is Cheating, don't glorify it....their wins are tainted!!! Period.

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 Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:25 am 
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Had this been a team without the poster boy Qb and owner ESPN loves to suck off at every opportunity I have little doubt it would have blown up into a much larger issue. What really gets under my skin is pundits that say well Bountygate is worse! No it isnt. Going after players has always been part of football and always will be, the fact Saints put an organized slant on it doesnt change the fact teams will still take aim at players. Ravens talked endless bounty smack and have plenty of games where there is evidence of them targeting players. Chris Johnson in 2008 playoffs comes to mind. Breaking Ben's nose. Filthy late hits on Miller, Ward etc. Where is the outrage? Crickets. Same with Pats.

What the Pats did not only changed the outcome of games but also lost in all the hand wringing over the Saints, why hasnt anyone brought up knowing another team's plays beforehand can lead to injuries that otherwise would not have occurred? If you know a player is getting the ball at a certain point on the field you can light them up and I have no doubt their is ample evidence of Pats doing so. To me that is far more insidious than a bounty program and yet another reason to scoff at ESPN, Bruschi, Bieber, Hoodie and all their advocates who are now using Saints travails everytime spygate is brought up.

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 Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:30 am 
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all the twitters on Mike & Mike are people saying CHeating is Cheating, don't glorify it....their wins are tainted!!! Period.


Should the Steelers have an asterisk in the 70's for failing to share college video of Stallworth prior to the draft? At that time, teams were required to share prospect's tape with other teams. After the Steelers saw Stallworth's tape, it all of a sudden got lost and other teams did not have the chance to watch him; hence him being around in the 4th round for the Steelers to snag.

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 Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:36 am 
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Had this been a team without the poster boy Qb and owner ESPN loves to suck off at every opportunity I have little doubt it would have blown up into a much larger issue. What really gets under my skin is pundits that say well Bountygate is worse! No it isnt. Going after players has always been part of football and always will be, the fact Saints put an organized slant on it doesnt change the fact teams will still take aim at players. Ravens talked endless bounty smack and have plenty of games where there is evidence of them targeting players.


Jerry Glanville and his "House of Pain" BS. There was some kind of bonus if you broke your facemask on an opponent.

Maybe I am remembering that wrong, but Coach Noll was pretty pissed at Glanville. Grabbed him after the gam and started lecturing him.


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