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SteelerFanFrenzy
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 Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:46 pm |
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:17 pm |
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Steeler Jones wrote: Quote: once you get to 20 it just becomes an endurance/lactic acid question and doesn't tell you much about functional football strength I'm not sure if this poster is clear on the definition of "functional strength" for football or anything else... The ability to do large numbers of reps at a set weight is a great measure of functional strength. Bench press motion might be partially repeated 4x per snap for certain types of blocking, so at 60 snaps/game that's 240 reps. If anything I question the value of 225# as the weight of choice, but as an overall measure of strength- test to failure is a great way to see if someone has nice looking muscles, a hi 1RM, or real strength. If I was doing it, I'd be doing it with 135# and see who can put up 100+ reps, lol. Do you really think the average football play remotely resembles 4 bench reps @225#. I don't think there's much of a difference in on-field upper-body strength between a 30-rep and 40-rep guy. More about localized muscular endurance and adeptness at a very specific benching technique. Combine bench reps aren't exactly done to strict powerlifting standards. It's a good way to separate a 7-rep from a 15-rep guy, but once you start moving away from 20, it's not able to differentiate very well.
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:11 pm |
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SteelerFanFrenzy wrote: That would be awesome to get a good punter to replace Kapinos -- although I'd rather find a replacement for Suisham since he's the worst of the 2. Maybe Butler can also kick off and relieve Suisham of that duty
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FC
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:59 pm |
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:31 pm |
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FC wrote:
yawn, call me when he jumps out of a pool 
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:25 am |
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Did we sign the trashcan?
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:29 am |
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I posted the video as a point of interest...I expected the Gilbert comparisons.
What I know about Tanney
He has good size...6-3 225...He added 15 pounds of muscle in the off season...He is a willing worker
He is a good enough athlete...Pro day results are respectable
He is smart and does a nice job of processing information...Mid 40's on the wonderlic
He is a coaches son who helped design his college play book
He can make throws on the move and into small windows...He is confident
Above average arm strength and plus accuracy.
He made multiple reads in college...Not half the field
He doesn't turn the ball over
Questions about Tanney
Spread QB
Footwork/ ball work (Running game, play action game)
Drops (3 5 7)
Speed of the game/Talent level
Ball velocity
Can he take a hit
How will he react after he is hit
I would not be surprised if he finishes camp 4th on the depth chart and on the Practice Squad...Which means he will be active by week 10 when Batch and or Lefty are injured.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:56 am |
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FC wrote: I would not be surprised if he finishes camp 4th on the depth chart and on the Practice Squad...Which means he will be active by week 10 when Batch and or Lefty are injured. So you expect both to survive the phsycality of the preseason games intact?
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:51 pm |
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Just hedging my bets sir
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Steeler Jones
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:26 pm |
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Quote: Do you really think the average football play remotely resembles 4 bench reps @225#. I don't think there's much of a difference in on-field upper-body strength between a 30-rep and 40-rep guy. More about localized muscular endurance and adeptness at a very specific benching technique. Combine bench reps aren't exactly done to strict powerlifting standards. It's a good way to separate a 7-rep from a 15-rep guy, but once you start moving away from 20, it's not able to differentiate very well No, I think the average football play for certain positions incorporates 4 partial bench reps at more like 135#, and the average football game for on OL or DL would be more closely approximated as 200-250 reps at 135#-185#... It's not a great proxy for actual football work, it's a solid indicator of functional strength in the sense that you want to know how someone's muscles will perform over the long haul. Using your own example- differentiating from a 7-rep to a 15-rep guy is more or less like differentiation between a 20-rep guy and a 42 rep guy... Except that at 42 reps you are now testing lactic system... Anyone who is throwing up 42-reps @ 225# has well-developed chest strength that is functional in that it can be deployed all game long. Anyone who is throwing up 15-reps, I am wondering why they couldn't get 20... Anyone throwing up <10 reps better weigh under 200# or they have no business doing anything but punting or kicking.
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