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Love those Ravens....and their constant comparisons to the steelers. Read below from
The Baltimore sun.....
Favorite selection: Courtney Upshaw. Honestly, I could argue that Upshaw was the best value pick, the prospect with the most upside and the player most likely to contribute early, but what fun would that have been? So I’ll just give him his own category. He might not have been the Ravens’ top choice Thursday, but trading back to get him on Friday was a coup. The pass rush struggled down the stretch last season as teams keyed on Terrell Suggs, but Upshaw has a chance to be the LaMarr Woodley to Suggs’ James Harrison. He can help take the pass rush -- and the Baltimore defense -- to the next level.
The Steelers are THE STANDARD in the AFC North!
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:05 pm |
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:09 pm |
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punum123 wrote: Love those Ravens....and their constant comparisons to the steelers. Read below from
The Baltimore sun.....
Favorite selection: Courtney Upshaw. Honestly, I could argue that Upshaw was the best value pick, the prospect with the most upside and the player most likely to contribute early, but what fun would that have been? So I’ll just give him his own category. He might not have been the Ravens’ top choice Thursday, but trading back to get him on Friday was a coup. The pass rush struggled down the stretch last season as teams keyed on Terrell Suggs, but Upshaw has a chance to be the LaMarr Woodley to Suggs’ James Harrison. He can help take the pass rush -- and the Baltimore defense -- to the next level.
The Steelers are THE STANDARD in the AFC North! Upshaw may become a nice player, but Lamarr Woodley clone? Please, that is a pipe dream.
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:20 pm |
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They have eerily similar size and agility numbers, but the big difference is Woodley's strength and explosiveness which is what differentiates him. 29 reps vs. 22 reps (not that big of a deal) but taken in context w/ 38.5" vertical vs. 27" it shows Woodley is far stronger and powerful. Upshaw should be a decent player, but it's doubtful he'll be close to Woodley's level. Woodley's career thus far would be close to his "best case scenario" on draft day.
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:30 pm |
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Woodley's KEI number was pretty good coming out, and I believe one of the knocks on Upshaw coming out was his lack of said measurables. He's also slower and as much of a coverage question mark as Wood was coming out, if not more. Also, Upshaw is a really big boy coming out as a 34 Olb. Tried to lose weight for his pro day,.gained weight instead, ending up at almost 290. I would say that if this guy has a career as good as Jarrett Johnson, he should consider himself lucky.
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:31 pm |
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Steel Keeper wrote: They have eerily similar size and agility numbers, but the big difference is Woodley's strength and explosiveness which is what differentiates him. 29 reps vs. 22 reps (not that big of a deal) but taken in context w/ 38.5" vertical vs. 27" it shows Woodley is far stronger and powerful. Upshaw should be a decent player, but it's doubtful he'll be close to Woodley's level. Woodley's career thus far would be close to his "best case scenario" on draft day. I just cant get past the fact all the Bama players played on a team filled with stars. Woodley played on an ok Mich team but nowhere near the galaxy of talent that surrounded Upshaw. Woodley had 12 sacks on a mediocre D where every team knew who the star was. Upshaw had 8.5 (1 in national title game). League wide can you think of a big time pass rusher from SEC? It is alot easier to recall pass rushers from that conference that havent dont jack squat. Jarvis Moss for example.
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:37 pm |
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Quentin Groves turned out well.
Derrick Thomas?
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:51 pm |
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on ice or grass wrote: Quentin Groves turned out well.
Derrick Thomas? Exactly for a conference with SEC's rep not exactly the returns on pass rushers you'd expect. For some reason it is an area SEC hasnt produced glut of talent at.
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:55 pm |
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Lot of good 43 type pass rushers over the years. Just haven't been alot of real 34 defenses in the SEC, saving what Saban has put together at Alabama.
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