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Deebo wrote: Speaking of IU controversies, Neil Reed is dead at 36. Unreal. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the ... ncaab.htmlR.I.P. Neil Reed. Feel bad about Reid, but he without any doubt, had the worst "Dumb and Dumber" haircut I have ever seen in my life. He drove Knight absolutely crazy, as did that whole recruiting class. Ridiculously talented class, none of which became worth a shit on the hardwood. _________________  The Betty White Watch: Still unwanted by 32 NFL teams. Pretty good on NBC though!
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ol skool
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:21 am |
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Iron_City wrote: db wrote: In the end, the facts won't matter for Paterno defenders......... because Joe's not here to defend himself.
One things for sure, PSU didn't do shit. What is important to me at this time is, the fact that, there are individuals responsible for the way events unfolded back then. I'm still waiting to see those people held accountable, and punished as well. yep, I agree with this. And I'll be the first in line to condemn anyone found guilty by a court of law So to be clear, there's absolutely nothing that could cause you to condemn JoePa, since dead men can't be convicted, right?
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Iron_City
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:46 am |
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ol skool wrote: So to be clear, there's absolutely nothing that could cause you to condemn JoePa, since dead men can't be convicted, right? Lets try it from a different angle. Instead of you mincing my words all day, why don't you state your case why I should by providing FACTS that you can back up about Paterno Put your lawyer hat on. Heresay and opinion will be dismissed. Just the facts Because to be honest, I'm not convinced you know whats going on. So prove me wrong
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:59 am |
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Iron_City
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:09 pm |
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swissvale72 wrote: http://www.newsmax.com/Freind/sandusky-investigation-allegations-corbett/2012/07/26/id/446691
Tom Corbett...Governor of the Commonwealth thats bullshit. Much easier to just blame Paterno and bury my head in the sand  the whole truth will slowly start to come out on related note, someone made a long post about Corbett on Florios CFT page. Was it you? Quote: bigd88 says: Jul 27, 2012 3:55 PM
dannythebisforbeast says:
Jul 27, 2012 3:17 PM
Erickson submitted to the NCAA because a true outside investigation may have uncovered alot more about him and his cronies.
It is totally naive to believe this starts and ends with Paterno and Spanier crew.
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Agreed 100%. Anyone who believes that this had to do with football, is a fool.
When you have the current State Governor acting as attorney general with the Sandusky case for 2 years and only pitting 1, ONE, investigator to the Sandusky case, while employing 14 to investigate political opponents – all while taking over $647,000 in donations from Sandusky’s charity during his election while Corbett himself was supposedly investigating Sandusky…….
When you have the outside legal counsel of Pen State, Wendell Courtney, being asked what to do with Sandusky by Graham Spanier in 2001, and then within a couple months Courtney ends up with an executive position in the Second Mile foundation – and doesn’t do anything about Sandusky while being an executive and knowing that Sandusky may have engaged in inappropriate behavior with children…..
And when you have Board of Trustees members with huge financial connections with the Second Mile (along with previous friendships with Sandusky), paying Louis Freeh (who has a very poor history if you actually do some research) to conduct an investigation that conveniently went into very little detail about the Second Mile connections with Penn State and current board members – you would be an absolute fool to think that the buck stops with a then 75 year old football coach, and a couple administrators of the school.
The media just focuses on that because Paterno is the former icon and name that sells the story – but their is statewide corruption involved that leads all the way to the Governor. And I didn’t even mention former DA Ray Gricar going missing.
Back on topic, yes the NCAA was way out of bounds here and did nothing more than try to make a political statement and Emmert grab more power for himself .
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:12 pm |
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ol skool wrote: Iron_City wrote: db wrote: In the end, the facts won't matter for Paterno defenders......... because Joe's not here to defend himself.
One things for sure, PSU didn't do shit. What is important to me at this time is, the fact that, there are individuals responsible for the way events unfolded back then. I'm still waiting to see those people held accountable, and punished as well. yep, I agree with this. And I'll be the first in line to condemn anyone found guilty by a court of law So to be clear, there's absolutely nothing that could cause you to condemn JoePa, since dead men can't be convicted, right? I'll answer your question, Ol Skool. I believe that Paterno certainly knew about Sandusky being a pedophile based on the '01 episode, not on '98 in which law enforcement was involved but didn't prosecute. We're never going to know to what degree, if any, Paterno impeded the reporting of '01 to law enforcement and child welfare. We have the Curley email which basically said "After disucssing with Joe..." We're left with the question of "What did Joe say?" Maybe Curley answers that question some day. If he says the decision to not go forward with reporting was all Paterno's, we'll never have Paterno's answer to that. So...we'll never really know the extent to which Paterno may have been the maestro, orchestrating the cover-up. One would think though, that the university president, regardless of his previous abuse history, which we're now just being informed of, could have called bullshit and reported the whole mess. What we do know is that there''s been a lack of focus on page 23 of the report where it's clear that the plan to not report was raised by Schultz prior to the email from Curley about his conversation with Paterno
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:18 pm |
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"on related note, someone made a long post about Corbett on Florios CFT page. Was it you?"
Wasn't me, IC....but Second Mile has skated (Jones raised this from the outset, in November) as has the Governor of the Commonwealth.
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Iron_City
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:24 pm |
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swissvale72 wrote: "on related note, someone made a long post about Corbett on Florios CFT page. Was it you?"
Wasn't me, IC....but Second Mile has skated (Jones raised this from the outset, in November) as has the Governor of the Commonwealth. because all we have is one side of the story, the Freeh report from day one I was confident all the information will eventually come out. We've exhausted this topic to the point where it was becoming comical that Paterno was the biggest villain in this
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:29 pm |
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That there are a lot of villians in this whole sorry mess does not mean that Joe Paterno was a hero, or didn't fail as well.
A lot of people failed these boys over many years...Joe Paterno among them.
Thank God for the parents and the wrestling coach at Central Mountain that wouldn't let it go in 2009, and finally brought matters to a head.
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:35 pm |
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Jeemie wrote: That there are a lot or villians in this whole sorry mess does not mean that Joe Paterno was a hero, or didn't fail as well.
A lot of people failed these boys over many years...Joe Paterno among them.
Thank God for the parents and the wrestling coach at Central Mountain that wouldn't let it go in 2009, and finally grout matters to a head. yep, I agree with most of that. But from day 1 from my perspective, seems like bulk of focus has been on Paterno, even more so than Sandusky himself
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