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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:06 pm 
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Curious to hear y'all's thoughts on this. My friend just applied for a police job and as part of the interview process they asked my friend to provide their facebook username and password. This was just a few days ago. Now the issue seems to be randomly blowing up.

Here is one from today:

http://gizmodo.com/5895846/facebook-tel ... m-meddlers

And another from a few days ago:

http://abovethelaw.com/2012/03/employer ... ook-pages/

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 Post Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:29 pm 
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E-mail password? bank account history? key too your house?

Invasion of privacy for sure. At what point can you separate your working & professional life? They're trying to blur the line, IMO.

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 Post Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:17 pm 
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No different than doing the already invasion of privacy tactic by completing a back ground check.

The only back ground check that should apply in an employment matter is work history and education. Not your credit scores or where you live or have lived or in this case your facebook information. That's complete horseshit.

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 Post Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:51 pm 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
No different than doing the already invasion of privacy tactic by completing a back ground check.

The only back ground check that should apply in an employment matter is work history and education. Not your credit scores or where you live or have lived or in this case your facebook information. That's complete horseshit.


I disagree with that, to some extent. I think some jobs really need to require background checks. As a consumer, I don't want to hear that my bank is hiring ex-cons to handle my money.

I'm a software engineer and my last job was at a major consulting firm where I worked on some government projects that had the potential to affect millions of citizens without the even knowing it. I worked on an application that calculated and distributed retirement and pension funds to government workers, and another application that actually processed federal background checks and automatically flagged certain applicants.

The potential for corruption, and the risk of wrongdoing is just far too great in those instances to not do thorough background checks on every member of those project teams.

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 Post Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:03 pm 
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So whats the excuse when a perfectly good "squeaky clean" candidate passes all the pre-employment screenings and then robbs everyone blind because they never saw if coming?

Most have the potential to become "criminals" and haven't been caught yet. Those that have been caught are fucked for life.

You can't win for losing in most cases. This invasion of privacy thing has been taken to a level too far. IMO

Watch the movie Minority Report. That's where all this insanity is headed. :roll:

My point is where does it stop? When can one say there is an established boundary where regardless of checking a persons past/present human beings are falible. No amount of checking can predict the future.

The government is extremely paranoid and uses extreme measures when checking a persons past. I worked with a gentleman that was applying to the FBI. Talk about a bunch of paranoid people. It's because they have the [long] history of corruption originating from inside their fortress of solitude.

You can profile a person but you would be wrong. JMO

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Steelafan77 wrote:
So whats the excuse when a perfectly good "squeaky clean" candidate passes all the pre-employment screenings and then robbs everyone blind because they never saw if coming?

Most have the potential to become "criminals" and haven't been caught yet. Those that have been caught are fucked for life.

You can't win for losing in most cases. This invasion of privacy thing has been taken to a level too far. IMO

Watch the movie Minority Report. That's where all this insanity is headed. :roll:

My point is where does it stop? When can one say there is an established boundary where regardless of checking a persons past/present human beings are falible. No amount of checking can predict the future.

The government is extremely paranoid and uses extreme measures when checking a persons past. I worked with a gentleman that was applying to the FBI. Talk about a bunch of paranoid people. It's because they have the [long] history of corruption originating from inside their fortress of solitude.

You can profile a person but you would be wrong. JMO


Of course a person with no criminal background can still do illegal things. But to willingly put someone with a history of stealing money in a position to handle the money of other people is extremely negligent.

I had a federal clearance for my job that was about as invasive as you can get. They interviewed every neighbor at every place of residence I've lived at in the past 10 years. I was required to give a list of my 10 closest friends from the past 10 years, who were all interviewed. They also grilled me about every non-US born person I had come into contact with in that 10 year span. My clearance was only one level below the level that requires a polygraph test.

So yeah, it was extremely invasive. But given the project I was projected to be part of, I completely understood why. The wrong person working on that project could have potentially built themselves a back door into the system that would have given them access to just about every documented record of every person in the country.

Yes, a person with a squeaky clean record could still do malicious things with that type of power. But that's far less likely a scenario than having a person with a documented criminal past working in the same position.

On the flip side, I do agree that many companies take the invasion of privacy too far. Asking for a Facebook password is ridiculous. For 99.9% of the jobs out there, a simple search of public records should be more than sufficient.

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 Post Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:37 pm 
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I do agree with your last statement fully. My point Crosby is when is enough before it's gone too far?

My co-worker I spoke of that applied to the FBI went through something similar as your security clearence. Accept they went all the back to grade school age with all those same tactics for him. Interviewing persons he hadn't seen in 20 years. I understand that. He also told me the Secret Service was even more thorough than the FBI.

For a job outside of those extremely sensitive about security clearences it has gone too far. IMO

Perhaps the 911 tragedy has much more to do with this increase in personal information.

Thanks for your insight on this Crosby.

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 Post Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:17 am 
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This was a topic in the local news last evening and the consensus is this activity is illegal and should not be tolerated by anyone. Dream job or not.

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 Post Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:40 am 
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So you either lose your privacy by giving up your password, or lose the job by not.

A strange game.
The only winning move is not to play.

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 Post Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:43 am 
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Or just choose not to have a facebook account. Perhaps til after you've landed your dream job anyways. ;)

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